INSTRUCTOR WITH STUDENTS ON PRACTICE ILS IS VECTORED OVER WATER BEYOND GLIDE RANGE.

Date: 1993-05 · Aircraft: Small Aircraft; High Wing; 1 Eng; Fixed Gear

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-other-unknown|other-unspecified

Synopsis

INSTRUCTOR WITH STUDENTS ON PRACTICE ILS IS VECTORED OVER WATER BEYOND GLIDE RANGE.

Narrative

DEPARTED J21 FOR IFR FLT TO CRE TO TRAIN STUDENT IN ILS APCH PROCS. ABOUT 15 NM SW OF CRE; MYRTLE BEACH APCH CTL STARTS VECTORING US FOR ILS 23 AT CRE. VECTOR OF 090 DEGS WAS GIVEN TO SPACE US FOR A DOWNWIND. THE CRE ARPT IS RIGHT ON THE ATLANTIC OCEAN; SO THIS VECTOR TOOK US ABOUT 2 MI OFF SHORE. HAD TO ASK CTLR ALTERNATIVE VECTORS TO PREVENT US FROM GOING OUT OF GLIDING RANGE TO THE SHORELINE. CTLR RESPONDED AND GAVE VECTOR ACROSS THE ARPT FOR A R DOWNWIND FOR THE ILS 23. COMPLETED APCH AND DID 2 MORE ILS APCHS DURING WHICH WE WERE PROVIDED WITH VECTORS OVER THE LAND. MADE FUEL STOP AT CRE AND CHANGED STUDENTS. TOOK OFF VFR AND CONTACTED MYRTLE BEACH FOR 3 ILS 23 APCHS. CTLR ESTABLISHES RADAR CONTACT AND STARTS VECTORING US TO THE E; AGAIN OVER THE OCEAN. THE VERY SAME SIT AS EARLIER DEVELOPED AND AFTER ADVISING CTLR THAT WE WERE NOT EQUIPPED WITH WATER SURVIVAL GEAR; VECTORS CHANGED TO AN OVER LAND R DOWNWIND. IT SEEMS THAT THE STANDARD PROC FOR ILS 23 AT CRE CALLS FOR A L DOWNWIND; OFFSHORE VECTOR. THIS IS AN INHERENT DANGEROUS PROC THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE POSSIBILITY OF AN EMER IN A SINGLE ENG ACFT. THE PLT HIMSELF IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT RADAR VECTORS DON'T BRING HIM INTO AN UNSAFE SIT; BUT COULDN'T A FACILITY BE A STEP AHEAD AND PROVIDE US WITH A MORE SAFER; LOGICAL PROC? CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES THAT THIS IS A FAIRLY STANDARD ROUTINE TO PRACTICE APCHS AT THIS ARPT. ALSO SEEMS STANDARD PROC TO BE VECTORED OVER WATER SO THEY MUST TELL APCH EACH TIME THEY ARE SINGLE ENG AND ARE NOT OVER WATER EQUIPPED. RPTR WAS ENCOURAGED TO MEET WITH OTHER FLT SCHOOLS WHOM HE SAYS COMPLAIN OF SAME PROB. THEY CAN CONSIDER A DELEGATION TO TALK DIRECTLY TO TRACON MGMNT REF THE PROB.

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