FO OF AN LTT MADE MISSED APCH AFTER NOT SIGHTING RWY ON ILS APCH 'BREAK-OFF.'

Date: 1995-05 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

FO OF AN LTT MADE MISSED APCH AFTER NOT SIGHTING RWY ON ILS APCH 'BREAK-OFF.'

Narrative

I AM A FO. I FLEW THE NEXT LEG FROM CASPER TO DENVER. THE CEILINGS IN DENVER WERE ABOUT 1000 FT. WE WERE EXPECTING AN APCH. THE CAPT'S RESPONSIBILITIES AS THE PNF WERE HANDLING OF THE RADIO; GETTING ATIS; BRIEFING ME ON THE APCH; BACKING ME UP ON THE PWR SETTINGS; AND ALT CALLOUTS. WE WERE ON THE RAMS ARR INTO DENVER; THE CAPT GOT THE ATIS. I ASKED WHAT APCH TO EXPECT. THE CAPT SAID; 'WE WERE NOT ASSIGNED AN APCH YET.' ALL I WANTED TO DO IS GET AN IDEA OF WHAT APCHS WERE BEING USED. I DID NOT PRESS HIM ON THE ISSUE BECAUSE I KNEW I WOULD FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH. WE COMPLETED THE IN RANGE CHKLIST. APCH CTL ASSIGNED US THE ILS FOR RWY 7. I HAD NEVER DONE THAT APCH BEFORE AND DID NOT HAVE IT ON MY KNEE BOARD. I ASKED THE CAPT TO BRIEF ME ON THE APCH. HE DUG THE APCH OUT AND BRIEFED ME. WE THEN DID THE APCH CHKLIST. WE WERE NOW GETTING CLOSER TO THE APCH GATE. WE WERE GETTING NUMEROUS VECTORS; ALT CHANGES; AND AIRSPD RESTRS. I WAS BUSY CONCENTRATING ON FLYING THE AIRPLANE. THEN APCH CTL ASSIGNED US THE ILS FOR RWY 8. THE CAPT ACCEPTED AND PULLED OUT THE APCH PLATE FOR RWY 8. HE THEN BRIEFED ME ON THAT APCH. WE WERE THEN GIVEN A SPD RESTR OF 190 KTS AND A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LOC. THINGS WERE STARTING TO HAPPEN VERY FAST. THE TKOF FLAPS WENT IN; THE LOC CTRED AND AWAY WE WENT DOWN THE GS. OWNER IS THE OM AT 5.1 DME. JUST OUTSIDE THE OM WE SWITCHED TO TWR. TWR ASKED IF WE COULD ACCEPT LNDG ON RWY 17R. THE CAPT ACCEPTED. I IMMEDIATELY ASKED WHERE RWY 17R WAS. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION. WE HIT THE OM. I PULLED THE PWR BACK TO SLOW DOWN TO GEAR SPD. I CALLED FOR GEAR DOWN. THE CAPT PUT THE GEAR DOWN. I THEN CALLED FOR FLAPS APCH. THE CAPT SET THE FLAPS TO APCH. I THEN CALLED FOR THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST TO THE LINE. IT INCLUDES THE REF SPDS. THE CAPT DID NOT WRITE THE SPDS DOWN WHEN WE DID THE APCH CHKLIST SO NOW HE WAS FUMBLING AROUND LOOKING FOR OUR WT TO FIND OUR REF SPDS. I WAS NOW NOT GETTING ANY HELP AT ALL. I'M CONCENTRATING ON THE LOC; GS AND ALTS. I AM ALSO HOPING FOR A RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION ABOUT RWY 17R. I'M FEELING A LITTLE UNEASY AT THIS POINT. I ASK THE CAPT AGAIN WHERE RWY 17R IS. AGAIN THERE WAS NO RESPONSE. I AM JUST ABOUT TO SAY I WANT TO LAND ON RWY 8 WHEN TWR SAYS; 'MAKE R TURN CLRED TO LAND RWY 17R.' I TAKE MY ARPT DIAGRAM FROM MY KNEEBOARD AND TRY TO GIVE IT TO THE CAPT. THE CAPT PUSHES IT AWAY AND RESPONDS TO THE TWR; 'R TURN CLRED TO LAND RWY 17R.' I IMMEDIATELY TURNED R. WE HAD BROKEN OUT AT ABOUT 600-1000 FT AGL. I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE THE CAPT WAS NOT MAKING ANY ALT CALLOUTS AND DID NOT TELL ME WHEN THE ARPT ENVIRONMENT WAS IN SIGHT. ONCE I TURNED R I KNEW WE HAD A PROB. I DID NOT SEE THE RWY. THE CAPT DID NOT SEE IT EITHER. HE THEN KNEW HE HAD TO ASK FOR HELP. SO HE TOLD THE TWR THAT HE MISUNDERSTOOD AND NEEDED TO DO THE MISSED APCH. ONCE THE TWR REALIZED WHERE WE WERE THEY IMMEDIATELY TOLD US TO MAKE A L TURN. ON THE MISSED APCH I HAD TO CALL 3 TIMES FOR THE CAPT TO SET MAX PWR AND FLAPS TKOF. HE FINALLY PUT THE FLAPS TO TKOF POS BUT I HAD TO SET MAX PWR. WE WERE JUST PAST RWY 16/34 WHEN I TURNED 90 DEGS TO THE R; WE WERE JUST W OF THE TWR. SO NOW WE WERE HEADED S; TWR TOLD US TO TURN L AND CLB; WE DID. WE ENDED UP GOING AROUND THE TWR; OVER THE APCH END OF RWY 17R; NEBOUND. TWR THEN HANDED US OFF TO APCH CTL. THE CAPT WAS NOW COMPLETELY BAFFLED ABOUT WHAT JUST HAPPENED. HE THOUGHT TWR WAS TRYING TO SEND US ON A DOWNWIND OR SOMETHING. I KIND OF FIGURED IT OUT THAT THEY WANTED US TO FLY DOWN RWY 8 THEN MAKE A R TURN AND LAND ON RWY 17R. WE WERE NOW WITH APCH CTL AGAIN. THE CAPT IS STILL THINKING ABOUT WHAT JUST HAPPENED. I'M FLYING NEW HDGS AND ALTS; ETC. WE ARE AGAIN AT THE APCH GATE WHEN I ASKED THE CAPT WHERE OWNER WAS. I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR THE DME DISTANCE. I RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. I ASKED AGAIN WHERE OWNER WAS. HE SAID; 'WHAT?' I SAID; 'WHAT DME IS THE OM?' HE SAID HE WAS STILL THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BACK THERE. I SAID; 'YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS APCH NOW. FLY THIS APCHNOW.' HE GAVE ME THE DME FOR OWNER AND WAS ALERT THE REST OF THE WAY. ONCE ON THE GND HE CALLED THE TWR TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED. HE BLAMES THE TWR COMPLETELY. HE DOES NOT THINK HE DID ANYTHING WRONG. HE IS CONVINCED THE TWR GAVE US A WRONG TURN. THE FACT IS; NEITHER OF US KNEW WHERE RWY 17R WAS IN RELATION TO RWY 8. I TURNED R WHEN I DID NOT KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING. THE CAPT ACCEPTED A CLRNC WHEN HE SHOULD NOT HAVE. I DID NOT INQUIRE STRONG ENOUGH WITH THE CAPT. I DID NOT TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO STOP A SIT I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH. I SHOULD HAVE DECLINED THE LNDG CLRNC AND ASKED FOR A NEW CLRNC TO RWY 8. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY TFC CONFLICTS.

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