SMA TOLD MOA IS HOT BY CTR CTLR AND OFFERED A CHOICE OF A TURN OR A WAFDOF ALT. RPTR REFUSES; CTLR COORDS WITH TFC.

Date: 1995-08 · Aircraft: Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer

Anomalies: other-unspecified|other-no-specific-anomaly-occurred

Synopsis

SMA TOLD MOA IS HOT BY CTR CTLR AND OFFERED A CHOICE OF A TURN OR A WAFDOF ALT. RPTR REFUSES; CTLR COORDS WITH TFC.

Narrative

IN VFR CRUISE; EBOUND AT 9500 FT; VFR; FLT FOLLOWING WITH ZFW; HAD JUST PENETRATED SHEPPARD A-MOA WHEN CTR ADVISED AREA WAS ACTIVE. WE ADVISED CTR WE COULD TURN S (AWAY FROM MOA) OR DSND TO 9000 FT; REQUESTED HIS PREFERENCE. CTR RESPONSE WAS WE COULD EITHER DSND TO 8500 FT (NOT A VFR ALT EBOUND) FOR 7 TO 8 MILES OR STAY WHERE WE WERE AND HE WOULD ADVISE TFC. WE ELECTED TO REMAIN AT 9500 FT. CTR ADVISED TFC IN THE MOA OF VFR TFC AT 9500 FT AND AS I RECALL REQUESTED THAT HE REMAIN ABOVE 10000 FT TILL FURTHER ADVISED. AFTER REFLECTING ON THIS INCIDENT IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT MY CONVERSATION WITH CTR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A 'CLRNC' TO PENETRATE THE MOA; UNDER VFR. MY NORMAL PRACTICE UNDER VFR FLT FOLLOWING IS TO REQUEST THE STATUS OF MOA'S ON MY RTE. I FAILED TO DO SO IN THIS CASE. NORMALLY ATC WOULD HAVE EITHER VECTORED ME OR REQUESTED AN ALT CHANGE. IN THIS CASE HE OFFERED NO VECTOR AND AN ALT WHICH WAS NOT LEGAL FOR OUR DIRECTION. BY THE TIME THE EXCHANGE HAD TAKEN PLACE WE WERE ALREADY INSIDE THE MOA AND OUR TIME TO BE CLR OF IT WAS ONLY 3 TO 4 MINS; AND SINCE HE HAD ADVISED TFC (APPARENTLY SEVERAL MI N OF US) WE ELECTED TO PROCEED AND ADVISED HIM. APPROX 10 MINS LATER WE PENETRATED THE SHEPPARD 3 MOA WITH NO COMMENT FROM CTR (IT WAS APPARENTLY NOT ACTIVE). IN HINDSIGHT; I SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED THE STATUS OF THE AREA FROM CTR BEFORE REACHING IT TO ALLOW TIME TO DEV IF NECESSARY. IN THIS CASE I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TURNED S TO CLR THE AREA BUT THE RESPONSE FROM CTR WAS CONFUSING. AT THE TIME I CONSIDERED HIS RESPONSE A 'CLRNC' TO ENTER.

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