AN ACI WAS REFUSED THE FORWARD OBSERVER'S SEAT.

Date: 1995-08 · Aircraft: B767-300 and 300 ER · Phase: ground

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|other-unspecified

Synopsis

AN ACI WAS REFUSED THE FORWARD OBSERVER'S SEAT.

Narrative

MR X; BRU ACR INSPECTOR (FAA); PRESENTED HIMSELF TO ME IN THE COCKPIT WHILE BOARDING PAX WITH THE DESIRE TO OBSERVE ON FLT BRU-IAD. I SUGGESTED THAT HE OCCUPY JUMPSEAT BEHIND ME FOR FIRST 30 MINS OF FLT; AS MY RELIEF FO NEEDED ACCESS TO RADIOS FOR SELCAL CHK; TRACKING MESSAGE AND OCEANIC CLRNC. MR X INDICATED THAT FAA AND ACR REFER TO B767 AS 2 MAN ACFT AND THAT HE WANTED CTR SWIVEL JUMPSEAT. I REQUESTED THAT IF HE WOULD OCCUPY L JUMPSEAT FOR JUST 30 MINS THAT HE COULD MOVE TO CTR SEAT FOR REMAINDER OF FLT. HE RESPONDED THAT HE WAS NOT GOING WITH US AFTER ALL AND WOULD LIKE TO CHK OUR LICENSES BEFORE DEPARTING. WE COMPLIED; HE DEPARTED ACFT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 313860: COMPANY SOP FOR THE RELIEF FO TO PERFORM CERTAIN DUTIES AFTER TKOF; INCLUDING OBTAINING THE OCEANIC CLRNC; WHICH CANNOT BE DONE FROM THE SECOND OBSERVER SEAT AS IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO XMIT FROM THAT POS. THE TIME FROM TKOF UNTIL WE WERE TO 'COAST OUT' WAS SHORT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR OF ACN #313860 REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR WAS FLYING AS RELIEF FO ON THE B767-300. THE CAPT GOT AN LOI FROM THE BRU FSDO INVITING HIM TO A HEARING IN BRU. ON THE ADVICE OF HIS ACR AND PLT UNION; HE DECLINED. ANOTHER HEARING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR NY. THE RPTR'S CHIEF PLT MET THE CREW AND IMMEDIATELY REMINDED THEM OF FAR 121.581 WHICH GIVES THE FORWARD OBSERVER'S SEAT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. THE RPTR SAID THAT THE ACI LEFT THE COCKPIT; THEN RETURNED AND LOOKED ONLY AT THE CAPT'S LICENSES AND REJECTED THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER CREW PERSON'S PAPERWORK. THE STATION AGENT WAS QUITE CONCERNED OVER HOW ENRAGED THE ACI WAS OUT IN THE JETWAY. THE RPTR'S ACR IS TAKING THE POS THAT; AS THE FLT TIME IS OVER 8 HRS; THIS IS A 3 MAN ACFT BY FARS AND THE RELIEF FO HAS DUTIES THAT REQUIRE HIM/HER IN THE FORWARD OBSERVER'S SEAT. NEITHER THE RPTR OR THE OTHER FO HAS RECEIVED AN LOI FROM THE FAA.

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