NMAC ON THE LAX STADIUM VISUAL APCH.

Date: 1995-09 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing · Phase: approach

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Synopsis

NMAC ON THE LAX STADIUM VISUAL APCH.

Narrative

OUR FLT FROM SBA TO LAX HAD BEEN BUSY FROM THE START. AN ARR RUSH WAS ON AND WE JUST MADE OUR DEP SLOT TIME FOR FLOW CTL. UPON ENTERING SOCAL APCH AIRSPACE WE WERE IMMEDIATELY TOLD TO SLOW TO 180 KTS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE; WE WERE 190 KTS FASTER THAN AN MD11 THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW. A COUPLE OF DELAY VECTORS GOT US SPACED ADEQUATELY BEHIND HIM AND BACK INTO THE NORMAL FLOW OF ARRS. HE WAS ASSIGNED THE ILS FOR RWY 24L AND WE WOULD GET A VISUAL FOR RWY 24R. WHEN ASKED IF WE HAD THE MD11 IN SIGHT I SAID I HAD SEVERAL PLANES IN VIEW BUT COULD NOT IDENT THE MD11. SOCAL APCH THEN GAVE US A TURN FROM DOWNWIND TO AN ANGLING FINAL SAYING WE COULD PICK HIM UP ON THE NEW S WESTWARD HDG AND FLY A VISUAL APCH REF THE MD11. NOW THINGS GOT REAL BUSY REAL FAST. OUR SW HDG WAS BEING ARRIVED AT JUST AS WE REACHED THE EXTENDED RWY 24R CTRLINE AND THE PF (AUTOPLT FLOWN) ROLLED OUT ON HDG WHILE I PICKED UP THE ARPT/RWY. I TOLD THE PLT TO TURN TO W NOW NOT SAYING THAT WE WERE XING THE APCH PATHS OF BOTH RWY 24R/L; THERE WASN'T THAT MUCH TIME. IN THE R TURN I CAUGHT FIRST OUR SHADOWS AND IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER SIGHT OF THE MD11 BELOW US ON THE RWY 24L LOC. I TOLD THE PLT TO ADD PWR AND DO NOT DSND AND HE WOULD SOON SEE THE MD11 ON HIS SIDE AS WE CROSSED OVERHEAD HIM AND TOOK OUR PLACE ON HIS R WING WHERE WE CONTINUED OUR SUCCESSFUL APCH AND LNDG. TCASII WAS OPERATING AT THE TIME AND DID GIVE US A TA WITH NO RA HAVING BEEN RECEIVED. WHILE IT WAS CALLING OUT 'TFC TFC' I WAS INFORMING THE PF WHERE IT WAS AND THAT IT 'SHOULD BE' THE MD11 WE WERE LOOKING FOR. ADD TO ALL THIS ONE CALL FROM SOCAL APCH TELLING US NOT TO FLY OVER; I THINK HE SAID; TO THE OTHER APCH PATHS; AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT WE HAD ONE VERY BUSY AND SOMEWHAT NOISY COCKPIT. I BELIEVE OUR FAILURE TO LOCATE THE MD11 PRIOR TO OUR BASE LEG TURN WAS THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A LARGER PROB THAN WHAT IT WAS.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.