DC9 CAPT ALLOWS CABIN ATTENDANT IN JUMP SEAT FOR TKOF AND FOR LNDG. FO OBJECTS TO CAPT'S ENG START PROC AS WELL; STARTING BOTH ENGS AT THE SAME TIME.

Date: 1996-06 · Aircraft: DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-other-unknown|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|other-unspecified

Synopsis

DC9 CAPT ALLOWS CABIN ATTENDANT IN JUMP SEAT FOR TKOF AND FOR LNDG. FO OBJECTS TO CAPT'S ENG START PROC AS WELL; STARTING BOTH ENGS AT THE SAME TIME.

Narrative

DURING THE LAST DAY OF AN ACR'S FLTS PRIOR TO TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE SURRENDER; MY CAPT AND I HAD SEVERAL DISAGREEMENTS. FIRST; SINCE IT WAS THE LAST FLT WITH THIS CARRIER; HE ELECTED TO FLY THE LEG (NO PROB). PROC DICTATES THAT THE PF STARTS THE ENGS AND HE ELECTED TO START THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY (PROB). I BROUGHT UP THE OBVIOUS OBJECTIONS BASED ON APU LOADING +/- OVERTEMP; ENG DAMAGE DUE TO INSUFFICIENT AIRFLOW; OVERHEATING; FLAME PROPAGATION; ETC. BUT HE SAID IT WAS HIS ACFT AND HE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THIS. NO PROBS OCCURRED DURING ENG START; BUT IT STILL BOTHERED ME. THE CAPT THEN ELECTED TO ALLOW A FLT ATTENDANT TO RIDE THE JUMPSEAT DURING TKOF (AND THE SUBSEQUENT APCH AND LNDG). HE SAID IT WAS NOT AGAINST FARS SINCE THEY WERE CREW MEMBERS AND TRAINED OBSERVERS; BUT I TOLD HIM I THOUGHT THEY HAD TO BE LICENSED PLTS. WE DISCUSSED IT FURTHER AND HE ALLOWED 2 DIFFERENT ATTENDANTS TO RIDE; 1 AT TKOF AND 1 AT APCH. NOT ONLY DO I THINK THIS WAS INAPPROPRIATE; BUT HE ENSURED THAT THEY ARRIVED IN THE JUMPSEAT AND GOT OUT OF THE JUMPSEAT PRIOR TO RECEIVING GND HANDLING; IE; HE DID NOT WANT THEM SEEN IN THE COCKPIT. ALTHOUGH NOT A BIG DEAL; BECAUSE I KNOW OTHER CARRIERS THAT ALLOW FLT ATTENDANTS TO RIDE THE COCKPIT JUMPSEAT (IT'S IN THEIR OPS SPECS); THIS CREATED A DISHARMONY AMONG THE CREW AND I FELT THAT IF THE CAPT WOULD DISREGARD THE RULES WHEN WE WERE UNDER CLOSE OBSERVATION BY THE FAA; WHAT WOULD HE DO AT ANOTHER TIME? I FEEL I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ASSERTIVE; BUT WOULD WALKING OFF THE ACFT HAVE HELPED? THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.