AN ACR DO328 FLC MAKING A VISUAL SEPARATION CLB OUT COMES TOO CLOSE; IN THE RPTR'S OPINION; TO A XING JETSTREAM 3100. THE RPTR FEELS THAT HE DID NOT GET ENOUGH INFO ON THE JETSTREAM'S FLT PATH FROM THE CTLR.

Date: 1996-12 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing · Phase: climb

Anomalies: conflict-airborne-conflict|other-unspecified

Synopsis

AN ACR DO328 FLC MAKING A VISUAL SEPARATION CLB OUT COMES TOO CLOSE; IN THE RPTR'S OPINION; TO A XING JETSTREAM 3100. THE RPTR FEELS THAT HE DID NOT GET ENOUGH INFO ON THE JETSTREAM'S FLT PATH FROM THE CTLR.

Narrative

WE LEVELED OFF AT 13000 FT. ATC SAID; DO YOU SEE TFC AT YOUR 2 O'CLOCK POS? WE SAID YES. ATC SAID; CAN YOU MAINTAIN VISUAL CONTACT? YES. SO ATC TOLD US TO CLB FROM 13000 FT TO 16000 FT. AS WE CLBED THROUGH 15000 FT THE OTHER ACFT WAS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO US. AT ABOUT 15500 FT IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE BOTH ABOUT THE SAME ALT AND GETTING CLOSER. SO IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE BOTH HEADED FOR A VERY CLOSE XING SO WE TURNED OUR ACFT TO AVOID THE OTHER; AND PASSED ABOUT 1000 FT HORIZ FROM HIM. IF WE HAD NOT TURNED; WE WOULD HAVE COME VERY CLOSE; MAYBE 100 FT. THE OTHER ACFT ALSO SEEMED TO CHANGE HIS COURSE AWAY FROM US AT THE SAME TIME. NOTHING WAS SAID BY ATC; OR BY OUR ACFT OR THE OTHER ACFT. I SAID TO THE FO THAT THE VISUAL CLB IDEA DIDN'T WORK OUT TOO WELL. I THINK WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS GOING TO CROSS OUR PATH OF FLT DURING THE CLB. ALL ATC SAID BEFORE THE CLB WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO CLB THROUGH HIS ALT. WE DIDN'T THINK HE WAS ON A XING COURSE WITH US. I THINK IF ATC WOULD HAVE SAID THAT WE HAD XING TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK; AND CLB FROM 13 TO 16; WE WOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL HE PASSED US; OR WE PASSED HIM. THERE WAS NO BIG HURRY ON CLBING AT THAT TIME. I KNOW WE SAID WE COULD MAINTAIN VISUAL WITH HIM; AND BY DOING THAT; WE ARE TO AVOID HIM OURSELVES; BUT I DON'T THINK WE WERE GIVEN ALL THE INFO WE NEEDED TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.