INSTRUCTOR RPT REGARDING ALTDEV ON IFR APCH DSNDING FROM ASSIGNED ALT. CONFUSION BTWN INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT REGARDING ALT CLRED TO.
Synopsis
INSTRUCTOR RPT REGARDING ALTDEV ON IFR APCH DSNDING FROM ASSIGNED ALT. CONFUSION BTWN INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT REGARDING ALT CLRED TO.
Narrative
I WAS ON AN IFR TRAINING FLT WITH 4 STUDENTS. THE WX WAS OVCST FROM 2000 FT TO LESS THAN 5000 FT WITH LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN. THE WINDS FROM 3000-5000 FT WERE ABOUT 40 KTS FROM THE SSW. WE WERE CLRED TO FLY OUTBOUND FROM RITTS ON THE 340 DEG BEARING; DSND FROM 5000 FT TO 3000 FT. DURING DSCNT; THE VSI AND ALT INDICATED INSTANTANEOUS; VERY LARGE DSCNT RATES DUE TO WATER IN THE STATIC PORT. THERE WAS LIGHT TO MODERATE TURB. THIS DISTR MY STUDENT. AS WE LEVELED OFF AT 3000 FT; CTR TOLD US TO START OUR PROC TURN. AS WE TURNED; I CHKED THE DME AND BECAME CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD EXCEED THE 10 NM LIMIT FOR THE PROC TURN. AT THE SAME TIME; MY STUDENT ASKED IF WE COULD DSND TO 2000 FT FOR THE PROC TURN. I ASKED HIM IF WE HAD BEEN CLRED; AND HE SAID YES; SO I TOLD HIM DSND TO 2000 FT. AS WE NEARED 2500 FT; CTR ASKED IF WE WERE MAINTAINING 3000 FT. I REALIZED WE WERE TOO LOW AND HAD MY STUDENT CLB; TOLD CTR WE WERE LEVELING AT 3000 FT; AND ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH. CTR SAID NO. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF I HAD CONFIRMED THE APCH CLRNC WITH CTR INSTEAD OF MY STUDENT. THE SIT WAS THE SAME AS 2 CREW MEMBERS NOT AGREEING ON A CLRNC. IT SHOULD BE VERIFIED WITH THE CTLR. IN THIS CASE THERE WAS NO NEED TO DSND AT THAT TIME. IT TOOK ABOUT 15 MINS TO GET BACK TO THE OM.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.