LTT ACFT ON APCH LNDG; CAPT ATTEMPTING TO MAKE FIRST TXWY TURNOFF; LANDED HARD AND POSSIBLY HIT RWY LIGHT. RPTR FO FAULTS LACK OF CRM AND SOP.

Date: 1997-06 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|inflight-event-encounter-cftt-cfit|other-unspecified

Synopsis

LTT ACFT ON APCH LNDG; CAPT ATTEMPTING TO MAKE FIRST TXWY TURNOFF; LANDED HARD AND POSSIBLY HIT RWY LIGHT. RPTR FO FAULTS LACK OF CRM AND SOP.

Narrative

ON JUN/XA/97 WE WERE ON SCHEDULED FLT FROM JOHNSTOWN; PA; TO PITTSBURGH; PA. THERE WERE 16 PEOPLE AND BAGS ABOARD ALONG WITH FUEL; PUTTING US CLOSE TO OUR MAX LNDG WT UPON REACHING PIT. VMC EXISTED AT THE TIME OF THE FLC AND PIT APCH CTL WAS ADVERTISING THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 10R IN PIT. THE CAPT WAS ACTING AS THE PF. THE LINE FOR THE APCH HAD STRETCHED OUT TO 20 MI AND THE CTLRS WERE DOING THEIR BEST TO PACK IN THE MIX OF PROPS AND JETS. WHEN HANDED OFF TO TWR; THE CTLR ASKED THAT WE MAKE THE EARLIEST AVAILABLE TURNOFF AND I RESPONDED THAT WE WOULD TRY. EARLIER IN THE DAY WE HAD HEARD ABOUT A DASH 8 FOR ANOTHER COMMUTER MAKING THE TURNOFF AT TXWY W. TXWY W IS LOCATED ONLY ABOUT 1000 FT DOWN THE 11000 FT RWY; AND IS THE QUICKEST AND EASIEST RTE TO THE TERMINAL FROM THAT RWY. THE CAPT HAD BEEN JOKING ALL DAY ABOUT HOW HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT TXWY. HE SUGGESTED THAT WE TRY IT AND I RESPONDED; 'CAPT; I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA; WE'VE GOT A FULL BOAT -- WE'RE PRETTY HVY.' THE CAPT IGNORED MY SUGGESTION. HE SLOWED THE ACFT TO OUR VREF SPD AND STARTED BELOW THE GS. THE GPWS WARNING SOUNDED 'GS; GS;' AND I CANCELED IT. 'CAPT; YOU'RE GOING BELOW THE SLOPE. I THINK WE'RE TOO HVY TO MAKE TXWY W; WHY DON'T WE ROLL TO THE NEXT ONE?' AGAIN HE IGNORED ME. I'D VOICED MY DISPLEASURE WITH THE PROC; BUT REALLY COULD NOT TAKE ANY FURTHER ACTION. AS WE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD INCHES ABOVE THE APCH LIGHTS; THE CAPT PULLED THE PWR LEVERS TO FLT IDLE AND THE AIRPLANE DROPPED. IT FELT AS THOUGH AS WE HIT; WE MAY HAVE CONTACTED A RWY END LIGHT. I AM NOT SURE IF WE DID; BUT I FELT THAT THE ENTIRE PROC WAS UNSAFE; AND MAY HAVE ENDANGERED MYSELF; MY PAX; AND MY ACFT. THIS CAPT HAS A REPUTATION FOR DOING THINGS 'OUTSIDE' THE SOP'S. HE FREQUENTLY PULLS CIRCUIT BREAKERS SO THAT HE CAN GO FASTER; TAXIES AT AN EXCESSIVE SPD; AND DISPLAYS A LACK OF COMMON SENSE IN THE COCKPIT. THERE ARE 2 PROBS WITH MY AIRLINE THAT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN: 1) LACK OF STANDARDIZATION. THE AIRLINE SHOULD ENFORCE THAT EACH CREW FOLLOWS THE COMPANY CALLS AND PROCS EXACTLY. THOSE PLTS WHO DO NOT WANT TO PLAY BY THE RULES SHOULD BE DISCIPLINED. RIGHT NOW EVERY CAPT HAS A DIFFERENT WAY THAT THEY LIKE THINGS DONE. 2) TIME FOR US TO GET A CRM CLASS. I DID NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THE UNSAFE SIT; AND THEREFORE WAS UNABLE TO.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.