A DC8-73CF DEPARTING MADRID; SPAIN; HAS DIFFICULTY IDENTING THE PROPER SID SEQUENCE AND HAS A TRACK OR HDG DEV. CHARTS ARE NOT EASILY IDENTIFIABLE OF WHAT THEIR SEQUENCE IS.

Date: 1997-07 · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-unspecified

Synopsis

A DC8-73CF DEPARTING MADRID; SPAIN; HAS DIFFICULTY IDENTING THE PROPER SID SEQUENCE AND HAS A TRACK OR HDG DEV. CHARTS ARE NOT EASILY IDENTIFIABLE OF WHAT THEIR SEQUENCE IS.

Narrative

AFTER TKOF RWY 15 AND CLRED SMA 1B DEP; WE TURNED TO INTERCEPT CNR 169 DEG RADIAL AS DEPICTED (SEE PLATE 10- 3K). IMMEDIATELY AFTER TURN; DEP CTL INQUIRED AS TO WHAT WE WERE DOING. I INFORMED HIM THAT WE WERE CLRED SMA 1B AND READ THIS BACK TO CLRNC DELIVERY. HE SAID WE WERE NOT FLYING THE SID PROPERLY AND THEN VECTORED US TO SMA NDB. WHILE IN CRUISE; I CLOSELY EXAMINED PLATE 10-3K AND NOTED THAT ONE MUST REFER TO ANOTHER PLATE 10-3 (INITIAL CLB PROCS) TO COMPLETE THE DEP. FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTED WERE HVY TSTMS IN THE AREA; UNFAMILIARITY WITH THE AREA; LANGUAGE PROBS AND MISUNDERSTANDING OF ESTABLISHED PROCS THAT REQUIRE ONE TO FOLLOW 2 SEPARATE PLATES SIMULTANEOUSLY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR WAS CONFUSED AND COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF HOW THE DEP WAS DESIGNED. HE REALLY DIDN'T SEE THAT THE ONE DEP PLATE RELIES ON THE BEGINNING OF THE DEP ON ANOTHER PLATE. THERE REALLY IS NO EASILY IDENTIFIABLE WAY TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE ASSOCIATED AND BUILT FROM ONE TO ANOTHER. THE CTLR CALLED THE FLC AND TOLD THEM THERE WAS NO SUCH DEP AS THEY WERE FLYING. THE CTLR GAVE THEM A VECTOR TO KEEP ALL THINGS LEGAL. AT CRUISE ALT THE RPTR WENT THROUGH ALL APCH PAGES TO SEE WHAT THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY AND THEN DISCOVERED THE DEP IS PREDICATED ON A COMMON INITIAL DEP; BUT THAT DEP WAS NOT ISSUED TO HIM. RPTR FEELS THAT A BETTER WAY OF IDENTING THE SEQUENCE OF 2 CLRED DEPS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ALL WHO USE THEM.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.