ACR S80 FLC GIVEN A LATE XING RESTR THAT THEY THEN FAILED TO MAKE. ATC WAS QUOTED BY FO AS 'BEING UPSET' ABOUT THE DEV. CREW FELT IT WAS AN ATC PROB.

Date: 1997-08 · Aircraft: MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-undershoot|deviation-altitude-crossing-restriction-not-met|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

ACR S80 FLC GIVEN A LATE XING RESTR THAT THEY THEN FAILED TO MAKE. ATC WAS QUOTED BY FO AS 'BEING UPSET' ABOUT THE DEV. CREW FELT IT WAS AN ATC PROB.

Narrative

15 DME N OF MSN VOR AT FL290; ATC ISSUED CLRNC TO CROSS MSN VOR BELOW FL200; AND TO CROSS 15 DME N OF JVL VOR AT 15000 FT. DSCNT WAS STARTED 330 KTS; FULL SPD BRAKES DEPLOYED. RATE OF DSCNT WAS 4900+ FPM. WE CROSSED THE VOR AT APPROX FL210. 7 DME S OF THE VOR; ATC MENTIONED THE XING RESTR. WE STATED THE LATE ISSUANCE OF THE CLRNC AND THAT THE ACFT WAS DSNDING AT 4000+ FPM. TO AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE; I WILL NOT ACCEPT SUCH A CLRNC; AND I WILL BE SURE TO INFORM ATC THAT WE WILL BE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE XING RESTRS. I ALSO FEEL THAT ATC SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE CAPABILITY OF MAX DSCNT RATES OF THE ACFT AND THE COMFORT LEVELS OF THE PAX. IN THIS CASE; THIS XING RESTR SHOULD HAVE BEEN ISSUED AT LEAST 40 DME N OF THE FIX TO BE CROSSED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 376371: THE CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO US SO QUICKLY THAT BOTH OF US HAD TO TAKE 1 XING A PIECE BECAUSE I COULD NOT WRITE FAST ENOUGH. OUR CRUISE SPD WAS MACH .76 AND WE COMPLIED AS QUICKLY AS WE BOTH KNEW WHAT WAS BEING ASKED OF US. ATC SEEMED TO BE UPSET BECAUSE WE DID NOT CROSS MSN AT FL200 FROM FL290 AT CRUISE SPD 15 DME FROM THE FIX. I WAS BUSY ON ANOTHER FREQ GETTING ATIS SO WE WERE VERY BUSY. IF WE ARE TOLD AHEAD OF TIME THAT A LAST MIN DSCNT IS COMING WE WOULD BE READY FOR IT.

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