MD80 CREW OBTAINS CLRNC TO DSND. CTLR DSNDED ACFT INTO ONCOMING TFC.
Synopsis
MD80 CREW OBTAINS CLRNC TO DSND. CTLR DSNDED ACFT INTO ONCOMING TFC.
Narrative
WE WERE FLYING FROM MCO TO JFK AT NIGHT. WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT SIE VOR; AND HAD BEEN CLRED TO DSND TO FL280. AS WE LEVELED AT FL280; WE WERE AWARE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO START DOWN SOON TO MAKE A XING ALT ON THE ARR TO JFK. WE ASKED FOR LOWER; AND WERE GIVEN FL270. WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULDN'T GO LOWER DUE TO TFC. ABOUT 300 FT FROM LEVELOFF THE CTLR TOLD US TO MAINTAIN FL270; WHICH WAS WHAT WE WERE CLRED TO ANYWAY. WE HEARD THE CTLR TELL AN ACR FLT TO EXPEDITE DSCNT. ABOUT THAT TIME WE SAW TFC ON OUR TCASII DISPLAYS; AT OUR ALT; COMING AT US FROM ABOUT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS AT A HIGH CLOSURE RATE. TCASII CALLED TFC ALMOST RIGHT AWAY. THE CTLR GAVE THE ACR AN IMMEDIATE 30 DEG L TURN. RIGHT AFTER THAT; WE GOT A DSCNT RA; AND WE NOTIFIED ATC THAT WE HAD AN RA. HE TOLD US TO TURN 30 DEGS L IMMEDIATELY. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND TOLD HIM WE WERE DSNDING BY THE RA. BUT SOMEWHERE IN HERE THE ACR FLT STARTED DSNDING TOO! HE WAS DSNDING MUCH FASTER THAN WE WERE; AND AT OUR CLOSEST APCH (3 MI?) HE WAS 1000 FT BELOW US. AFTER WE DSNDED ABOUT 700 FT; TCASII GAVE US A 'CLR OF CONFLICT' AND WE STARTED TO CLB BACK TO FL270. ATC THEN GAVE US CLRNC TO CONTINUE DSCNT TO A LOWER ALT. THE PROB WE HAVE HERE IS THAT WE FOLLOWED OUR TCASII COMMANDS TO DSND; AND YET OUR TFC WAS DSNDING ALSO. DID HE HAVE A DSND RA ALSO; OR DID HE HAVE NO RA; OR DID HE HAVE A CLB RA AND IGNORED IT? HE APPARENTLY HAD US IN SIGHT; SO MAYBE HE DECIDED TO IGNORE THE RA. WE NEVER FOUND OUT; BECAUSE THE CTLR WAS NON COMMUNICATIVE (MAYBE A LITTLE RATTLED BY THE WHOLE THING); AND WE CHANGED FREQS SOON AFTER THAT.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.