CAPT OF A DC9 CONTINUED APCH AFTER BEING ADVISED OF THE LATEST WX RPT WHICH INDICATED BELOW CAT I LNDG MINIMUMS; TOGETHER WITH THE RPTING FO'S CAUTION TO THE CAPT OF BELOW THEIR MINIMUMS FOR LNDG. A SUCCESSFUL LNDG WAS MADE IN GOOD VISIBILITY AND THE ARPT WX RPT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY UPDATED TO REFLECT SAME.

Date: 1998-11 · Aircraft: DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|other-unspecified

Synopsis

CAPT OF A DC9 CONTINUED APCH AFTER BEING ADVISED OF THE LATEST WX RPT WHICH INDICATED BELOW CAT I LNDG MINIMUMS; TOGETHER WITH THE RPTING FO'S CAUTION TO THE CAPT OF BELOW THEIR MINIMUMS FOR LNDG. A SUCCESSFUL LNDG WAS MADE IN GOOD VISIBILITY AND THE ARPT WX RPT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY UPDATED TO REFLECT SAME.

Narrative

WHEN WE LEFT DTW TO JAX THE WX WAS CLR WITH GOOD VISIBILITY. ENRTE; DISPATCH SENT AN ACARS THAT JAX WAS 1/4 IN FOG AND ADDED AN ALTERNATE. WE CHKED JAX WX 2-3 MORE TIMES ENRTE AND NOTICED IT WENT FROM BELOW MINIMUMS TO VFR EVERY FEW MINS. THE ATIS SAID THE VISIBILITY WAS 3 MI. WE COULD SEE THE ARPT FROM 20 MI AWAY AND NOTICED SOME PATCHY GND FOG IN THE AREA. WE COULD HAVE EASILY ACCEPTED A VISUAL APCH. WHEN APCH TURNED US ONTO THE LOC; IN THE SAME XMISSION AS THE ILS CLRNC; HE ADVISED US THAT THE TOUCHDOWN RVR WAS 1200 FT WITH MID AND ROLLOUT BETTER THAN 6000 FT. I ASKED THE CTLR TO REPEAT THE RVR; WHICH HE DID. I ADVISED THE CAPT THAT IT WAS BELOW CAT I MINIMUMS AND WE WOULD NEED 1800 FT RVR. HE SAID THAT HE COULD SEE THE RWY CLRLY. I AGAIN ADVISED HIM THAT RVR HAS PRIORITY OVER THE PREVAILING VISIBILITY AND IT WAS ILLEGAL TO CONDUCT THE APCH. HIS RESPONSE WAS 'GEAR DOWN.' A THIRD TIME I ADVISED HIM THAT 'TECHNICALLY' WE CAN'T SHOOT THIS APCH BECAUSE OF THE TOUCHDOWN RVR. I SUGGESTED WE CIRCLE TO A RWY WITHOUT RVR. HE DECLINED. AT THE OM; I ADVISED THE TWR WE HAD 'A GOOD VISUAL WITH THE RWY' AND WERE CLRED TO LAND. I COULD SEE FULL LENGTH AND WIDTH OF THE RWY AND IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WAS A PATCH OF FOG OVER THE TRANSMISSOMETER SITE -- IT WAS VISIBLE. ALTHOUGH I KNEW WE WERE TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL TO CONDUCT THE APCH; IN MY JUDGEMENT WE DID NOT CONDUCT AN UNSAFE OP. WE CONTINUED VISUALLY AND MADE A VISUAL LNDG WITHOUT INCIDENT. ON ABOUT A 3 MI FINAL; THE TWR ADVISED THAT THE ATIS HAD CHANGED; OBVIOUSLY THE RVR HAD INCREASED. I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE I COULD HAVE DONE SHORT OF TAKING THE ACFT AND I REALLY DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS WARRANTED. I SEE THE FO'S JOB AS THAT OF A SAFETY VALVE -- I PROVIDE INPUT AND IDEAS; AND TAKE OVER IF SAFETY IS COMPROMISED. I MADE A DECISION THAT THIS WAS SAFE; ALBEIT TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL. I HAVE GONE OVER IT 100 TIMES AND DECIDED IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN TO BE MORE FORCEFUL IN MY INPUT; BUT AGAIN; I DOUBT I WOULD TAKE THE ACFT UNLESS SAFETY WERE COMPROMISED.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.