INST RATED PVT PLT OF A CHEROKEE ARROW PA28 QUESTIONED THE NEED FOR THE APCH RADAR CTLR TO CLR HIM TO THE PUBLISHED FINAL LOC FIX DURING RADAR VECTORS TO FINAL. HE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT HE WAS CLRED TO DSND PRIOR TO THE FINAL FIX EVEN THOUGH THE CTLR HAD CLRED HIM FOR THE APCH 'ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC.'

Date: 1998-12 · Aircraft: Small Aircraft; Low Wing; 1 Eng; Retractable Gear · Phase: approach

Anomalies: other-unspecified

Synopsis

INST RATED PVT PLT OF A CHEROKEE ARROW PA28 QUESTIONED THE NEED FOR THE APCH RADAR CTLR TO CLR HIM TO THE PUBLISHED FINAL LOC FIX DURING RADAR VECTORS TO FINAL. HE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT HE WAS CLRED TO DSND PRIOR TO THE FINAL FIX EVEN THOUGH THE CTLR HAD CLRED HIM FOR THE APCH 'ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC.'

Narrative

THE WX WAS 400 FT AND 1 1/2 MI VISIBILITY. I WAS BEING RADAR VECTORED AT MY ASSIGNED ALT OF 3000 FT BY MEM APCH TO INTERCEPT THE LOC DME RWY 18 APCH TO OLV. BEFORE INTERCEPTING THE LOC; I WAS CLRED FOR THE APCH ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC. ONCE ESTABLISHED AND APCHING OLV; I WAS EXPECTING THE CTLR TO ASSIGN ME 2000 FT; THE PUBLISHED ALT FOR THE FAF. (THIS IS A RADAR REQUIRED APCH WITH NO PROC TURN; TRANSITION RTE; INITIAL OR INTERMEDIATE SEGMENTS. THE ONLY PUBLISHED SEGMENT IS FROM THE FAF TO MISSED APCH AND TO THE HOLD.) AS I CONTINUED THE APCH; I ASKED FOR 2000 FT. THE CTLR RESPONDED WITH 'YOU ARE CLRED FOR THE APCH' NEVER ASSIGNING THE REQUESTED ALT. AS I APCHED THE FAF; I CONCLUDED FROM THE CTLR'S LAST XMISSION THAT HE MUST BE EXPECTING ME TO DSND TO CROSS THE FAF AT 2000 FT; THE PUBLISHED INTERCEPT. I DISCUSSED THE EVENT WITH AN INSTRUCTOR AND WAS TOLD THAT ONCE CLRED FOR THE APCH I COULD DSND TO 2000 FT TO INTERCEPT THE FAF AT THE PUBLISHED ALT OF 2000 FT. I LATER REFERRED TO THE FARS AND CONCLUDED THAT I SHOULD HAVE REMAINED AT MY LAST ASSIGNED ALT UNLESS ASSIGNED ANOTHER ALT OR I WAS ON A PUBLISHED PART OF THE APCH. AGAIN; THE ONLY PUBLISHED PART OF THE APCH IS FROM THE FAF TO MISSED APCH TO THE HOLD. I BELIEVE MY MISTAKE WAS ASSUMING WHAT I THOUGHT THE CTLR WANTED AND NOT QUERYING THE CTLR IN DETAIL AS TO WHY HE WAS LEAVING ME AT AN ALT THAT WAS HAVING ME CROSS THE FAF 1000 FT HIGHER THAN PUBLISHED. I BELIEVE THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE ASSIGNED 2000 FT PRIOR TO THE FAF. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE REMAINED SOMEWHAT DOUBTFUL WITH REGARD TO THE LEGALITY OF DSNDING PRIOR TO THE PUBLISHED PORTION OF THE APCH. IT WAS POINTED OUT TO HIM THAT SINCE RADAR VECTORS WERE REQUIRED FOR THE APCH; ATC WAS RESPONSIBLE TO VECTOR THE ACFT ONTO THE FINAL APCH COURSE INBOUND IN ORDER THAT ALL TERRAIN CLRNC OBSTACLES WERE MET PRIOR TO THE FAF. HE ADVISED THAT HE READ AN ARTICLE IN A PUB OF INST FLT RELATING TO THIS TYPE OF SIT WHICH MADE HIM PARTICULARLY APPREHENSIVE DURING THIS FLT TO A 400 FT MDA WITH HIGH TWRS IN ALL QUADRANTS. IN ADDITION; THE MSA OF 2500 FT; 500 FT ABOVE HIS DSCNT ALT PRIOR TO THE FINAL FIX; SURROUNDED THE ARPT. HE IS GOING TO FAX THE ARTICLE REFERRED TO US FOR OUR INFO.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.