AN AA-1C INSTRUCTOR PLT HAS A PROB WITH THE TWR PROC AT PNE WHEN TA NOT GIVEN.

Date: 1999-05 · Aircraft: Yankee AA1 · Phase: initial_climb

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance

Synopsis

AN AA-1C INSTRUCTOR PLT HAS A PROB WITH THE TWR PROC AT PNE WHEN TA NOT GIVEN.

Narrative

THE TWR CTLR CLRED US FOR TKOF ON RWY 24 WITH A L TURN TO DEPART THE AREA TO THE E. AT THE END OF THE RWY I NOTICED AN ACFT AHEAD AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE MY ALT. UPON REACHING 500 FT AGL (600 FT MSL); I REALIZED THE TFC WAS CLOSING WHEN THE STUDENT STARTED TO TURN TO THE L TO DEPART THE PATTERN ON COURSE. AT THAT TIME I STOPPED THE STUDENT AND MADE A SHALLOW TURN TO THE R TO AVOID THE INCOMING TFC. I KEPT THIS TURN VERY SHALLOW SINCE I WAS IN THE R SEAT AND WANTED TO MAINTAIN VISUAL CONTACT UNTIL THE TFC PASSED. THE HELI PASSED TO OUR L; WE WERE BOTH 700 FT MSL. AFTERWARD; WHEN THE FREQ WAS SILENT; I QUERIED THE TWR. THE COMMENT I MADE WAS; 'WHEN I TAKE OFF ON RWY 24; AND SOMEONE IS COMING IN ON THE BACK COURSE; THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE A 'HEADS UP' FOR ONCOMING TFC.' I WAS TOLD THAT THE CTLR SAW THE TFC ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS I; THAT THE TFC WAS VFR AND NOT ON THE BACK COURSE; AND THAT IT WAS NO FACTOR. ADDITIONALLY THE CTLR OFFERED THE TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE TWR WHICH I DECLINED SINCE IT IS AVAILABLE AT THE SCHOOL. TIME: XA50. AFTER WE RETURNED; I ATTEMPTED TO CALL THE TWR MGR. THERE WAS NO ANSWER. I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS NOT AN ANSWER MACHINE OR VOICE MAIL WHEN THE PHONE WAS NOT ATTENDED. AT THAT TIME I CALLED THE TWR IN AN ATTEMPT TO LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE TWR MGR. THE CTLR WHO ANSWERED WANTED TO RESOLVE ANY PROB THEN AND THERE. I ATTEMPTED TO LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE TWR MGR AND ASKED WHO IT WAS. EACH ATTEMPT WAS REBUFFED AND I WAS ASKED WHAT THE PROB WAS. I SAID THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT NOT BEING NOTIFIED OF HEAD-ON TFC IN THE TFC PATTERN. I WAS TOLD; THE TFC WAS NO FACTOR; WHAT IS THE PROB? AT THIS POINT I STATED THAT I WOULD RATHER SPEAK TO THE FACILITY MGR. I THEN REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THE IDENT OF THE CURRENT PNE FACILITY MGR. EACH RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION WAS 'NO ONE.' AT THIS TIME I WAS TOLD THAT I MUST BE 'DENSE;' THERE IS NO FACILITY MGR AT PNE. I THEN SAID THAT IF HE WOULD NOT PROVIDE THAT INFO; THAT I KNEW WHERE TO OBTAIN IT. THE CTLR TOOK THIS AS A THREAT AND BERATED ME FOR THREATENING HIM OVER THE PHONE. AT THIS TIME I STATED THAT I WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THE TWR TAPE AND THE TELEPHONE TAPE TO TAKE TO THE FSDO. I THANKED HIM FOR HIS ATTN TO THE MATTER AND HUNG UP.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.