A DHC8 FLC PERFORMS AN EARLY DSCNT OUTSIDE OF THE JEENO INTXN DURING A LOC APCH TO RWY 11 AT EWR; NJ.
Synopsis
A DHC8 FLC PERFORMS AN EARLY DSCNT OUTSIDE OF THE JEENO INTXN DURING A LOC APCH TO RWY 11 AT EWR; NJ.
Narrative
WE WERE CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 11 AT EWR WITH THE GS UNUSABLE. WE ASKED THE CTLR TO CALL JEENO (THE FAF FOR THE LOC PORTION OF THIS APCH) SO WE CAN COMMENCE OUR DSCNT. THE CTLR INSISTED THAT JEENO CAN BE IDENTED FROM THE TEB 240 DEG RADIAL. HE SOUNDED QUITE IRRITATED WHEN WE ASKED HIM TO CALL JEENO A SECOND TIME. AGAIN HE STATED WE CAN IDENT THE FIX FROM TEB. BY THIS TIME THE RWY WAS WELL IN SIGHT AND THE CAPT TOLD ME THAT WE WERE INSIDE JEENO THUS I BEGAN THE DSCNT TO THE MDA. UPON REACHING THE MDA; THE CTLR JUMPS ON THE RADIO WITH LOW ALT ALERTS AND REPEATEDLY SAID THAT WE WERE STILL 1/2 MI OUTSIDE THE FIX; 'CLB TO 1500 FT. YOU ARE STILL 1/4 MI FROM JEENO; YOU SHOULD BE AT 1500 FT.' THE CTLR ANXIOUSLY REPEATED. BY THIS TIME THE CAPT CALLED THE FIELD INSIGHT AND THE CTLR ANGRILY CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL. WE WERE IN VMC CONDITIONS THE ENTIRE TIME AND THERE WAS NO DANGER. I FEEL THE PROB CAME TO PLAY WHEN THE CTLR MISUNDERSTOOD THE APCH. ILS RWY 11 AT EWR IS A RADAR REQUIRED APCH AND JEENO IS A RADAR FIX. THE CTLR MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT FACT; EVEN THOUGH THE TEB 240 DEG IDENTS JEENO; THE VOR RADIAL IS NOT OFFICIAL BUT HE INSISTED IT WAS. THE FLT CONCLUDED WITHOUT ANY OTHER PROBS. ONE MORE THING; WHILE TAXIING TO THE GATE THE GND CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE TOLD THAT GS WAS UNUSABLE; AND WE REPLIED YES; SEVERAL TIMES THAT'S WHY WE FLEW THE APCH AS A LOC ONLY NON PRECISION APCH. NOTHING FURTHER TRANSPIRED.
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Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.