2 ACFT COME TOGETHER OVER BUR; CA; WHEN FLYING THE GOLDEN STATE DEP. ONE WAS DEPARTING AND THE OTHER WAS ARRIVING USING THIS RTE TO WHITEMAN ARPT. BOTH UNDER CTL OF TWR IN CLASS C AIRSPACE.

Date: 2000-05 · Aircraft: Bonanza 35 · Phase: approach

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|airspace-violation-all-types|deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-acft-hit

Synopsis

2 ACFT COME TOGETHER OVER BUR; CA; WHEN FLYING THE GOLDEN STATE DEP. ONE WAS DEPARTING AND THE OTHER WAS ARRIVING USING THIS RTE TO WHITEMAN ARPT. BOTH UNDER CTL OF TWR IN CLASS C AIRSPACE.

Narrative

WHILE TRANSITIONING BURBANK CLASS C AIRSPACE (VIA THE GOLDEN STATE DEP TO WHITEMAN ARPT) ON MAY/FRI/00; AT OR AROUND XA00 PM; I WAS TOLD BY THE CTLR TO TURN L 30 DEGS WHICH WAS DONE IMMEDIATELY. MY ACFT; A BONANZA F35; WENT UNDER A CESSNA 180; WHICH HAD DEPARTED RWY 8 AT BURBANK AND HAD BEEN GIVEN A GOLDEN STATE DEP N. I CALLED THE BURBANK TWR AND SAID I JUST HAD A HIT WITH ANOTHER AIRPLANE; WHEN THE CTLR (AFTER TALKING TO ANOTHER AIRPLANE) SAID '...WHAT DID YOU SAY?' I REPEATED 'I JUST HAD A HIT FROM ANOTHER AIRPLANE I THINK ITS WHEEL HIT THE TOP OF MY AIRPLANE.' THE CTLR ANSWERED 'DO YOU WANT TO FILE AN INCIDENT RPT?' THIS IS THE LAST THING I WANTED TO HEAR FROM A CTLR. I SAID 'NEGATIVE SIR; I WANT A FREQ CHANGE TO WHITEMAN.' HE REPLIED 'SQUAWK VFR FREQ CHANGE APPROVED.' WHEN ON THE RWY AT WHITEMAN ARPT I WAS ASKED TO CALL BURBANK TWR. I CALLED ON MY CELL PHONE WHILE TAXIING TO MY HANGAR. THE SUPVR AT BURBANK ASKED IF THERE WAS DAMAGE TO MY ACFT. I SAID I WOULD NOT KNOW UNTIL I PARK THE ACFT. THERE WAS NO DAMAGE. BUT ON TOP OF THE L WING; 2 FT IN FROM THE WINGTIP WAS A SLIGHT BLACK TIRE MARK 3 INCHES WIDE BY 5 INCHES LONG STARTING AT THE LEADING EDGE OF THE WING. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY I WAS GIVEN A 30 DEG L TURN INTO THE PATH OF THE CESSNA 180. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION BTWN THE CTLR AND ACR X WHO WAS LNDG RWY 15 HAD TO GO AROUND DUE TO ANOTHER ACFT ON THE RWY. THE AIRLINER LINED UP TO LAND ON RWY 8; WAS CHANGED TO RWY 15. THE AIRLINER SAID 'I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?' CTLR SAID 'THINGS ARE GOING TO HELL IN A HAND-BASKET AROUND HERE FAST; WHEN YOU GET YOUR...TOGETHER IN THE COCKPIT I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.' THE AIRLINER WAS ABOUT 400 FT AGL 1-1 1/2 MI AHEAD AND BELOW MY ACFT. I WAS AT OR ABOUT 2400 FT MSL. THE AIRLINER WENT ACROSS WHITEMAN ARPT (I WAS TOLD BELOW PATTERN ALT AT ABOUT 500-600 FT AGL) ON BASE LEG TO RWY 15. TO PREVENT REOCCURRENCE; I THINK THE CTLRS SHOULD MAINTAIN POSITIVE SEPARATION IN CLASS C AIRSPACE FOR VFR FLTS THE SAME AS REQUIRED FOR IFR. IT IS DIFFICULT TO WATCH FOR CONVERGING ACFT WHEN COMPLYING TO A VECTOR GIVEN TO A PLT BY A CTLR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SAID THAT THE GOLDEN STATE DEP IS USED AS A ROUTING FOR BOTH DEP FROM BUR AND FOR AN ARR RTE THROUGH THE BUR CLASS C TO WHITEMAN ARPT WHEN COMING FROM THE E. WHAT LED TO THIS OCCURRENCE WAS APPARENTLY THE GAR COMMANDED BY TWR TO THE ACR JET WHICH WAS INSTRUCTED TO CIRCLE TO LAND ON RWY 15 BECAUSE OF AN ACFT OCCUPYING RWY 8. THE ENSUING CONFUSION AND COM PROBS BTWN THE ACR AND TWR LED TO A DISTR FOR THE CTLR AND HE ISSUED A TURN TO THE RPTR THAT WAS APPARENTLY INTENDED FOR ACFT Y. THE PLTS OF BOTH ACFT X AND ACFT Y DID NOT SEE EACH OTHER. ACFT Y WAS CLBING THROUGH ACFT X'S ALT.

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