A UNITED STATES BASED ACR FLT PROCEEDS PAST 5400N 1500W PRIOR TO RECEIVING CONFIRMATION OF THEIR DELAYED OCEANIC CLRNC FROM EGGX; FO.

Date: 2000-06 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing · Phase: cruise

Anomalies: airspace-violation-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-com-probs-clrnc-interp

Synopsis

A UNITED STATES BASED ACR FLT PROCEEDS PAST 5400N 1500W PRIOR TO RECEIVING CONFIRMATION OF THEIR DELAYED OCEANIC CLRNC FROM EGGX; FO.

Narrative

ATTEMPTED TO OBTAIN OCEANIC CLRNC FROM SHANWICK ON DATA LINK. DATA LINK INDICATED BUSY AND DISPLAYED A 'DO NOT TRY AGAIN.' ATTEMPTED CONTACT SEVERAL TIMES WITH SHANWICK OCEANIC ON VHF 123.95. HEARD SHANWICK COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER ACFT AND OTHER ACFT BEING ADVISED TO 'STAND BY; YOU ARE #3;' BUT SHANWICK DID NOT RESPOND TO MY CALLS. FINALLY; WHEN SHANWICK COMS BEGAN TO FADE IN AND OUT; I BEGAN CALLING SHANWICK ON HF 5616. AFTER NUMEROUS CALLS; SHANWICK FINALLY ANSWERED AND I REQUESTED OCEANIC CLRNC FROM THEM ON HF. WAS TOLD TO STAND BY. UPON REACHING OUR OCA ENTRY POINT; I CALLED OUR 'R TURN' AND WHEN I WAS CERTAIN WE WERE ENTERING HOLD I CALLED 'ENTERING HOLD AT 15 DEGS W.' SHANWICK OCEANIC ADVISED US TO MAKE CONTACT ON 134.27 AND CAPT CALLED SHANNON ON THAT FREQ. CAPT ADVISED IN R TURN ENTERING HOLD. SHANNON ADVISED TO RETURN TO 54N 15W AT MAGNETIC 32 DEGS; MACH .82 AND MENTIONED NAT TRACK E. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAD RECEIVED OUR OCEANIC CLRNC FROM HER AT THAT TIME; HOWEVER; APPARENTLY SHE WAS JUST CLRING US TO 15 W AND CONFIRMING OUR REQUEST FOR OCEANIC CLRNC. AFTER PASSING 54N 15W THE CAPT RPTED OUR POS; TIME; ALT; ETA; 55N 20W; NEXT POS; ETC. SHANWICK RESPONDED WITH CONFIRMATION OF OUR OCEANIC CLRNC. SHORTLY AFTER MAKING OUR 20 W POS RPT; SHANWICK OCEANIC CALLED AND ADVISED THEY WERE FILING A RPT FOR ENTERING OCEANIC AIRSPACE WITHOUT A CLRNC. AN ACFT OUT OF MCGUIRE AFB; NJ; CALLED US ON HF RADIO FREQ 5616 AND SAID THEY HEARD OUR NUMEROUS CALLS AND ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT SHANWICK AND INDICATED SHANWICK WAS UNRESPONSIVE. MCGUIRE ACFT'S CALL SIGN WAS MIL XYZ. IT APPEARS NOW I SHOULD NOT HAVE USED THE COMMON COURTESY TO WAIT FOR MY TURN TO TALK TO SHANWICK OCEANIC; BUT JUST KEEP CALLING UNTIL THEY RESPONDED.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.