WX DEV REQUEST IN FLORIDA IS HANDED OFF BY ONE CTLR; ARGUED ABOUT BY THE SECOND CTLR AND GRANTED BY THE THIRD CTLR. A MINOR TRACK DEV OCCURRED AS THE TIME PASSED TO GET ALL THIS DONE.

Date: 2000-07 · Aircraft: MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: deviation-track-heading-all-types|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence|other-artcc-plt-confrontation-dispute

Synopsis

WX DEV REQUEST IN FLORIDA IS HANDED OFF BY ONE CTLR; ARGUED ABOUT BY THE SECOND CTLR AND GRANTED BY THE THIRD CTLR. A MINOR TRACK DEV OCCURRED AS THE TIME PASSED TO GET ALL THIS DONE.

Narrative

WE WERE ON THE MRLIN 4 ARR INTO FLL. WE HAD CHKED ON WITH CTR WHILE DSNDING TO 7000 FT AND HAD REQUESTED A DEV TO THE R FOR WX. THE CTLR CAME BACK AND SAID THAT THE NEXT CTLR WOULD HAVE A TURN FOR US. SINCE THE WX WAS STILL A WAYS AWAY (50+ MI) I DECIDED WE COULD WAIT A BIT. WE GOT HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR AND MADE OUR REQUEST AGAIN. THE CTLR ASKED IF WE COULD TURN L AND WE REPLIED THAT WE WERE UNABLE DUE TO WX. WE NEEDED TO GO TO THE R. AT THIS POINT WE WERE IN THE CLR AND COULD VISIBLY SEE THE WX. WE HAD BEEN PAINTING ON THE RADAR AND I WASN'T GOING TO GO 'PLUGGING' INTO IT. WHILE WE WERE 'ARGUING' WITH THE CTLR (WITH NICE LITTLE COMMENTS FROM HIM LIKE; 'THE LAST GUYS WENT THROUGH IT') I ACCIDENTALLY LET THE ACFT DRIFT ABOUT 2 1/2 TO 3 MI W OF CTRLINE. HE CALLED US 5 MI W OF CTRLINE. I REPLIED THAT WE SHOWED OURSELVES NO MORE THAN 3 MI W AND WOULD NOT ACCEPT A TURN BACK TO THE E. HE THEN SAID; 'I NOW SHOW YOU 5 MI PLUS W OF COURSE; CONTACT ZMA ON 133.77.' WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE FREQ CHANGE; CONTACTED THE NEXT CTLR AND HE IMMEDIATELY GRANTED OUR REQUEST FOR DEPS TO THE R (W). MY QUESTION IS THIS: WX (TSTMS) ARE AN ISSUE ALMOST EVERYDAY IN FLORIDA. IF AN ACFT NEEDS TO DEVIATE; WHO CARES WHAT THE PREVIOUS ACFT ACCEPTED? THE CTLR IN QUESTION KEPT ACTING AS THOUGH HE KNEW MORE ABOUT THE WX THAN WE DID. I REFRAINED; BUT WANTED TO ASK IF HE HAD A BETTER VIEW FROM HIS SEAT. I BELIEVE THAT THE CRUX OF THE SIT WAS COM. I WAS NOT GOING TO ALLOW A CTLR TO STRONG ARM MY ACFT INTO A SIT I DID NOT LIKE AND AS SOON AS THAT WAS CLR THE COMS DETERIORATED AND BECAME CONFRONTATIONAL. IF THE CTLR HAD GIVEN US OUR OPTIONS (DSND AND THEN TURN; SLOW DOWN AND TURN; CLB AND TURN) WE MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AVOID ALL OF THIS. I MAYBE SHOULD HAVE EXPLORED THOSE SAME OPTIONS BUT ADMIT I 'GOT MY DANDER' UP A BIT WHEN HE STARTED TO TELL US OUR CHOICES WERE BASICALLY TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE WX OR TO TURN L INTO THE WX.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.