AN ALT OVERSHOOT AND SPD DEV RESULT FROM A LAST MIN ALT CLRNC CHANGE AND PREVIOUS DISREGARD OF FLT MGMNT SYS STANDARD OPERATING PROC.
Synopsis
AN ALT OVERSHOOT AND SPD DEV RESULT FROM A LAST MIN ALT CLRNC CHANGE AND PREVIOUS DISREGARD OF FLT MGMNT SYS STANDARD OPERATING PROC.
Narrative
ON PREFLT; THE CAPT DIDN'T LOAD THE 'MAINTAIN 250 KTS UNTIL ADVISED' SPD RESTR INTO THE FMS. AS IT WAS NOT MY LEG; I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT BEFORE MAKING THE CORRECTION. HE PAUSED; THEN SAID I COULD PUT IT IN IF I WANTED TO. WHEN I ASKED HIM; HE SAID HE DIDN'T USUALLY LOAD IT; SO I LET IT GO AT THAT; THINKING IT WAS KIND OF FOOLISH; BUT HE'S THE CAPT. AFTER TKOF; DEP CLRED US TO CLB TO FL230. AS WE WERE CLRED TO TURN R ON COURSE; OUR CLB CLRNC WAS CHANGED FROM FL230 TO 13000 FT. THIS ALL HAPPENED AT ABOUT 10000 FT IN THE CLB. AFTER I'D MADE THE APPROPRIATE CHANGES TO THE FLT DIRECTOR; I REALIZED HE WAS PASSING 280-290 KIAS AND APCHING 11000 FT. WHEN I ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED TO ACCELERATE; HE SAID NO; AND PULLED THE NOSE OF THE AIRPLANE UP TO BLEED OFF THE EXTRA SPD; ESTABLISHING A HIGH RATE OF CLB. I QUICKLY CALLED '1000 FT TO GO;' THEN BECAUSE OF THE HIGH RATE OF CLB; ADDED A '500 FT TO GO' CALL; BUT HE STILL COULDN'T STOP THE CLB UNTIL 13300 FT. SHORTLY AFTER THAT THE CTLR CLRED US TO ACCELERATE TO NORMAL SPD AND LATER; CLRNC TO CONTINUE TO CLB. THE CTLR NEVER MENTIONED THE ALTDEV. IN HINDSIGHT; I WOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE CHANGE TO THE FMS DURING PREFLT WITHOUT ASKING. I ASKED OUT OF COURTESY; THEN REGRETTED NOT JUST DOING IT WHEN HE DIDN'T WANT IT LOADED. COMMON PRACTICE IS TO PUT THE AIRSPD RESTR INTO THE FMS; PRECLUDING JUST WHAT HAPPENED.
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