B737-700 CREW HAD SPD DEV IN ZLA CLASS E AIRSPACE.

Date: 2001-01 · Aircraft: B737-700 · Phase: descent

Anomalies: deviation-speed-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|inflight-event-encounter-other-unknown|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence|other-ctlr-attitude

Synopsis

B737-700 CREW HAD SPD DEV IN ZLA CLASS E AIRSPACE.

Narrative

DURING DSCNT INTO LAJ; PRIOR TO PGS; WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO MAINTAIN 280 KIAS. WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT SECTOR WHICH GAVE US A CLRNC TO DSND AND MAINTAIN FL200; MAINTAIN 280 KIAS IN THE DSCNT. SEVERAL MINS LATER; WE WERE HANDED OFF AGAIN AND GIVEN A CLRNC TO 'DSND TO FL200; CROSS 5 MI E OF BUMMER AT AND MAINTAIN 13000 FT AND 250 KIAS.' I THEN ENSURED THE THROTTLES WERE IDLE AND INCREASED MY RATE OF DSCNT TO COMPLY WITH THE CLRNC. MY AIRSPD INCREASED TO 310 KIAS; SINCE I THOUGHT THE 280 KT RESTR HAD BEEN DELETED WITH THE CLRNC TO 'CROSS 5 MI E OF BUMMER AT AND MAINTAIN 13000 FT 250 KIAS.' WHEN THE CTLR INITIALLY ISSUED THE CLRNC TO 'DSND TO FL200; CROSS 5 MI E OF BUMMER AT AND MAINTAIN 13000 FT AND 250 KIAS;' IT TOOK SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF READBACKS AND CONFIRMATIONS TO GET THE CLRNC STRAIGHT DUE TO FLYING THROUGH AN ISOLATED POCKET OF TURB AND STEPPING ON EACH OTHER DURING XMISSIONS. THIS APPEARED TO ANGER THE CTLR. I HAD BEEN AT 310 KIAS FOR 1-2 MINS WHEN HE ASKED US TO 'SAY AIRSPD.' HE WAS OBVIOUSLY AGGRAVATED AND HE REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES THAT WE HAD 'VIOLATED' OUR CLRNC AND SCOLDED US. WE RESPONDED POLITELY TO HIM AND HIS QUESTIONS AND WHEN HE HANDED US OFF TO APCH HE STATED 'NO HARM; NO FOUL; CONTACT APCH ON XXX.XX.' SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 500100: JUST AS I WAS ABOUT TO READ THE CLRNC BACK; WE HIT MODERATE TURB AND I DELAYED THE CLRNC READBACK TO DO A SAFETY RELATED PA TO SEAT THE FLT ATTENDANTS. I BEGAN TO READ THE CLRNC BACK; BUT THE CTLR WAS ALREADY AGGRESSIVELY DEMANDING THAT I READ THE CLRNC BACK. I READ THE CLRNC BACK BUT THE READBACK WAS STEPPED ON. WHEN I FINALLY GOT THE READBACK ACCOMPLISHED; THE CTLR WAS OBVIOUSLY AMAZED I LEFT THE FREQ TO GET A GATE ASSIGNMENT. AS SOON AS I RETURNED; THE SAME CTLR DEMANDED TO KNOW OUR SPD IN THE DSCNT. I POLITELY EXPLAINED THAT WE HAD INCREASED OUR SPD IN ORDER TO MAKE THE 5 MI EARLIER THAN EXPECTED XING RESTR HE ISSUED US. HE ANGRILY INFORMED US WE WERE IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE 280 KT RESTR AND IN VIOLATION OF FAR'S AS A RESULT. LATER; ON FREQ CHANGE; THE CTLR SAID 'NO HARM; NO FOUL.'

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Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.