C182 PLT REQUIRED TO DEVIATE INTO MIL RESTR AREA DUE TO WX.

Date: 2001-09 · Aircraft: Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG · Phase: cruise

Anomalies: airspace-violation-all-types|deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence|inflight-event-encounter-other-unknown|other-active-restr-area

Synopsis

C182 PLT REQUIRED TO DEVIATE INTO MIL RESTR AREA DUE TO WX.

Narrative

RECEIVED PREFLT WX BRIEF FORECASTING CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY (TSTMS). FLYING ON PUBLISHED VICTOR AIRWAY (V394) FROM VEGAS DIRECT DAGGETT. TSTM BUILDUP APPROX 2 HRS PRIOR TO TIME FORECASTED IN BRIEF. LARGE CELL DEVELOPED DIRECTLY OVER DAGGETT OF SLIGHTLY NE OF. COULD NOT FLY THROUGH CELL; CAUSE LIGHTNING STRIKES AND HVY PRECIPITATION WITH SEVERE DOWNDRAFTS. WAS SAFETY OF FLT ISSUE. QUERIED ZLA AND JOSHUA APCH TO OVERFLY R-2502E OR R-2502N DUE TO TSTM (ALT WAS 8500 FT). THEY TOLD US 'NO; CAUSE LIVE FIRE ARTILLERY.' I AM 100% SURE (BEING AN ACTIVE DUTY MEMBER OF MIL) THAT THE MIL WAS NOT SHOOTING ARTILLERY. THEY INSTRUCTED ME TO TURN 10-15 DEGS L. I COULD NOT BECAUSE THAT WOULD PUT ME DIRECTLY IN HEART OF TSTM. I COMMUNICATED THIS. 4 OTHER ACFT (INCLUDING ACR B737) HAD EXACT SAME PROB AND ASKED CTR FOR SAME REQUEST. THEY CONTINUED TO DENY CAUSE ARTILLERY LIVE FIRE. SUGGESTION: AIRSPACE (RESTR) NEEDS 24 HR; 7 DAYS A WK POC FOR GRANTING PERMISSION IN SUCH OCCURRENCES. THIS WAS SAFETY OF FLT ISSUE. COULD NOT PROCEED S CAUSE MULTIPLE TSTM CELLS. TO THE N WAS CLR WITH LITTLE OR NO CUMULUS BUILDUP. IF THAT AIRSPACE IS REALLY THAT BURDENED BY ARTILLERY; SHOULD BE PROHIBITED NOT RESTR. ALSO; AT WHAT ALT DOES ARTILLERY ROUND ACHIEVE? AIRSPACE SHOULD BE MANAGED LIKE R-2515 (EDWARDS AFB) WHICH ALLOWS OVERFLTS ABOVE 6000 FT ON NO-USE HOURS (WEEKENDS). IN THE END; JOSHUA TOLD ME I FLEW THROUGH RESTR AIRSPACE. IF I DID; I DID NOT VIOLATE IT BY MORE THAN 1 MI OR 2 MI. POINT IS; I SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN HARASSED AND DENIED. APCH SHOULD HAVE HAD AUTH TO PERMIT REQUEST.

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