VFR DEP PROCS FOR AN AIRBORNE IFR PICKUP AS SPECIFIED IN THE AIRLINE COMPANY OPS MANUAL IS PUT TO THE TEST BY A FLC WHO LATER FEEL THAT THEY MAY HAVE VIOLATED SOME OF THE CAVEATS OF THE PROC OUT OF EGE; CO.

Date: 2002-03 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-op-manual-interp

Synopsis

VFR DEP PROCS FOR AN AIRBORNE IFR PICKUP AS SPECIFIED IN THE AIRLINE COMPANY OPS MANUAL IS PUT TO THE TEST BY A FLC WHO LATER FEEL THAT THEY MAY HAVE VIOLATED SOME OF THE CAVEATS OF THE PROC OUT OF EGE; CO.

Narrative

DUE TO TAILWINDS; WE WERE UNABLE TO ACCEPT RWY 25 AT OUR ACTUAL WT. WE OPTED FOR RWY 7 WHICH PROVIDED FOR A NORMAL TKOF PROC; BUT TOLD TO EXPECT A 30 MIN DELAY. WITH SKIES CLR WE REQUESTED A VFR DEP. EGE ATC GRANTED OUR REQUEST AND OUR TKOF CLRNC CAME SOON AFTER. CLB AND PICKUP OF OUR ATC CLRNC FROM ZDV WAS RECEIVED AND WE PROCEEDED AS FILED. GUIDANCE IN MANUAL SEEMS MINIMAL AND AFTER REVIEWING THE EGE PAGE I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WERE NOT GIVEN A FIX TO FLY TO; ALTHOUGH WE WERE GIVEN AN ALT. THE TECHNIQUE ACHIEVED THE GOAL OF EXPEDITING OUR DEP; BUT SINCE IT IS A PROC WE RARELY NEED TO USE; BETTER GUIDANCE SHOULD BE PROVIDED ABOUT VFR CLBS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. I AM ALSO CONCERNED WHETHER; REQUEST VFR DEP MEANS THE SAME THING TO EGE TWR AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR REQUIREMENTS. I ASSUME WHEN MANUAL HAS A PROC SPECIFIC TO OUR ACR IT SHOULD NOT NEED TO BE CLARIFIED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 539911: GIVEN A SQUAWK OF 1200 AND TOLD TO CONTACT ZDV IN THE AIR. DENVER GAVE US OUR ORIGINAL SQUAWK AGAIN AND GAVE US VECTORS TOWARD OUR FIRST FIX PRIOR TO REACHING FL180. UPON REVIEWING OUR MANUAL WE BECAME CONCERNED THAT PERHAPS WE HAD ACCEPTED AN INAPPROPRIATE VFR DEP. THE MANUAL PAGES ARE FAIRLY VAGUE ABOUT THIS PROC.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.