AN EMBRAER 140 ON APCH AT 5000 FT HAD PITCH TRIM FAILURE WARNING. CREW DISCOVERED MAIN ELECTRIC AND ALTERNATE TRIM SYS FAILED.

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DSNDING ON DOWNWIND IN VMC CONDITIONS IN THE ORD CLASS B AIRSPACE; THE CAPT HAD THE SPD BRAKES DEPLOYED. AS THE AIRPLANE STARTED TO LEVEL OFF; HE CLOSED THE SPD BRAKES. AT THAT TIME; OR CLOSE TO IT; WE RECEIVED A PITCH TRIM INOP WARNING ON THE EICAS. AS PER THE APPROPRIATE CHKLIST; WE EXERCISED THE PITCH TRIM SWITCHES; AND DISCOVERED THAT THE PITCH TRIM HAD INDEED FAILED. THE PITCH TRIM INDICATOR WAS INDICATING UP 4 DEGS AT THE TIME OF FAILURE. BECAUSE WE WERE IN VMC CONDITIONS AND THE AIRPLANE HAD NO PITCH UP OR PITCH DOWN TENDENCIES; WE DECIDED TO CONTINUE ON VECTORS FOR A VISUAL APCH. I WAS ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE CHKLIST WHEN WE CAME ACROSS THE OM FOR A VISUAL APCH. AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAD POSITIVE CTL OF THE AIRPLANE; IN VMC CONDITIONS; AND ON ABOUT A 4 MI FINAL WITH THE TRIM FAILED IN A SUITABLE POS FOR A NORMAL LNDG; WE DECIDED TO CEASE WITH THE CHKLIST AND LAND THE AIRPLANE. THE LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL. UPON REACHING THE GATE; WE MADE THE APPROPRIATE ACFT MAINT LOG ENTRY. NO EMER WAS EVER DECLARED. ALTHOUGH THE PF CANNOT RECALL; WE BELIEVE IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT AT THE TIME OF SPD BRAKE RETRACTION; HE MAY HAVE BEEN TRIMMING OPPOSITE TO WHAT THE AUTOMATIC TRIMMING FUNCTION WAS DOING WHEN THE SPD BRAKES WERE RETRACTED; WHICH COULD HAVE CAUSED A FAILURE OF ONE OR BOTH SYS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED BOTH THE MAIN ELECTRIC TRIM ACTUATOR AND THE ALTERNATE TRIM ACTUATOR WERE INOP AND BELIEVES THE ACTUATORS WERE REPLACED BY MAINT.