H25B FLT CREW ARE ADVISED BY ILG GND CTLR THAT THEY FAILED TO RPT OPS MANUAL AND OBTAIN LNDG CLRNC.

Date: 2003-03 · Aircraft: BAe 125 Series 800 · Phase: landing

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-landing-without-clearance|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence|other-no-faf-rpt

Synopsis

H25B FLT CREW ARE ADVISED BY ILG GND CTLR THAT THEY FAILED TO RPT OPS MANUAL AND OBTAIN LNDG CLRNC.

Narrative

AFTER BEING VECTORED TO THE FINAL APCH TO RWY 10 AT ILG; WE WERE CLRED BY THE LCL CTLR FOR THE ILS RWY 10 AND TOLD TO RPT XING THE OUTER MARKER. PNF ACKNOWLEDGED AND CONTINUED TO PERFORM THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. UPON XING THE OUTER MARKER; BOTH PLTS WERE CONCENTRATING ON ALT CALLOUTS AS PER COMPANY MEMO. BOTH PLTS NOTED LOC; AND GS WERE CTRED AND AGREED WITH XING ALT OF THE APCH. SOON AFTER XING THE OUTER MARKER; BOTH PLTS BECAME DISTR WHEN THE COUPLED AUTOPLT MADE A 5-10 DEG L TURN. THE PF DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND CONTINUED THE APCH. AFTER BREAKING OUT OF IMC AT APPROX 1000 FT AGL WITH GOOD VISIBILITY TO THE RWY; PF ASKED PNF IF WE WERE CLRED TO LAND; AND THE REPLY WAS -- CLRED FOR APCH AND LNDG. AFTER TOUCHDOWN AND TURN OFF ON TXWY; GND CTL INFORMED US THE TWR DID NOT GIVE US LNDG CLRNC; AND ASKED US TO CALL THE TWR. I CALLED THE TWR AND TALKED TO THE MGR ON DUTY; AND TOLD HIM WE UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC WAS FOR APCH AND LNDG. HE SAID WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH; AND TO CALL PASSING THE OUTER MARKER FOR LNDG; (WHICH WE DID NOT DO). HE SAID THAT BOTH SIDES HAD LEARNED A LESSON; AND SINCE WE HAD NOT COME CLOSE TO ANY OTHER ACFT OR GND VEHICLES; THAT THERE WAS NO HARM AND NO FOUL; AND THAT THE PHONE CALL WOULD BE THE END OF THE MATTER ON HIS PART. MYSELF AND MY FO HAVE FILED WRITTEN RPTS TO OUR COMPANY.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.