A PA28-201 PLT AND HIS SAFETY PLT EXPERIENCED CONFUSION WITH ORL'S TRPIC TWO DEP WHICH CAUSED A PLTDEV.

Date: 2003-05 · Aircraft: PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far

Synopsis

A PA28-201 PLT AND HIS SAFETY PLT EXPERIENCED CONFUSION WITH ORL'S TRPIC TWO DEP WHICH CAUSED A PLTDEV.

Narrative

I WAS PIC OF A PA28-201 ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM ORL TO MLB. THE FLT PLAN WAS FILED USING THE QUICK FILE SYS WITH ST PETERSBURG FSS (ORL-TRPIC TWO DEP DIRECT MLB). AFTER REVIEWING THE TRPIC TWO DEP WITH THE SAFETY PLT; WE BOTH CONCURRED THAT THE DEP PROC WAS NOT RWY SPECIFIC AND THAT THE SE DEP WOULD BE FLOWN AFTER TKOF. (THE DEP PROC WAS DIFFICULT TO READ AND THIS IS WHERE THE MISINTERP OF THE DEP PROC BEGAN. COPY OF THE DEP PROC IS ENCLOSED.) UPON CONTACTING THE ORL TWR TO COPY THE IFR CLRNC; XA30; I WAS INFORMED IT WAS NOT ON FILE. AT THAT POINT I SWITCHED FREQS TO CONTACT ST PETERSBURG FSS TO SEE IF THEY HAD OUR CLRNC ON FILE. I WAS TOLD THAT THEIR COMPUTERS WERE OFF LINE AT THAT TIME AND IT WOULD BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY CAME BACK ON LINE. I THEN CONTACTED THE ORL TWR TO INFORM HIM OF THE SIT; AND REQUESTED A VFR DEP WITH VFR TA'S OR FLT FOLLOWING. HE THEN WAS NICE ENOUGH TO COPY SOME INFO ON OUR FLT SUCH AS TYPE OF ACFT; SUFFIX; AND TRUE AIRSPD TO GET US AN IFR CLRNC. HE READ OUR CLRNC AS CLRED TO MLB-TRPIC TWO DEP DIRECT AND A SQUAWK CODE. I DID NOT COPY TRPIC TWO SW DEP; OR RECALL READING BACK SW DEP. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 25. I DO NOT RECALL BEING GIVEN A HEADING TO FLY AFTER TKOF. I WAS TOLD TO CONTACT ORLANDO DEP. I HAD JUST REACHED 400 FT AND BEGAN TO TURN TO A HEADING OF 060 DEGS WHILE SWITCHING FREQS AND THEN CONTACTED ORLANDO DEP AND TOLD THEM WE WERE THROUGH 500 FT CLBING 1500 FT HEADING 060 DEGS. AS I BEGAN THE TURN TO 060 DEGS; MY SAFETY PLT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ODD TO BE TURNING TO THE R WITH THE CITY OF ORLANDO NOT SO FAR AWAY. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 4000 FT. I HESITATED BEFORE RESPONDING BECAUSE AT THIS POINT THE SAFETY PLT AND I BOTH KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG BECAUSE THIS ALT WOULD TAKE US IN TO THE FLT PATH OF THE SBOUND ARRS AT MCO. A BRIEF MOMENT LATER ORLANDO DEP ASKED US WHAT HEADING WE WERE FLYING; AND WHO ASSIGNED IT? I RESPONDED 060 DEGS TRPIC TWO DEP. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 1500 FT. I WAS THEN GIVEN A PHONE NUMBER TO COPY AND TOLD TO CALL THE DEP SUPVR UPON ARR AT OUR DEST. HE THEN CONTINUED TO GIVE RADAR VECTORS TO MLB. WE WERE ALSO TOLD BEFORE BEING HANDED OFF TO DAYTONA APCH THAT THEY HAVE HAD SOME PROBS WITH PLTS FLYING THIS DEP PROC. UPON ARR AT OUR DEST I CONTACTED THE ORLANDO TRACON SUPVR AS REQUESTED. I WAS ASKED WHY I FLEW THE DEP THE WAY I DID AND I TOLD HIM THIS WAS HOW I INTERPRETED THE DEP PROC. HE TOLD ME AGAIN THAT THEY ARE HAVING PROBS WITH THIS DEP PROC AND THAT THIS COULD BE RPTED AS A PLTDEV. HE ALSO SAID THAT ORL TWR CTLR TOLD HIM THAT HE DID GIVE US AN ASSIGNED HEADING FROM TKOF AND ALSO TRPIC TWO SW UPON GIVING US THE CLRNC. I AM NOT DISPUTING THIS; BUT IF I WAS GIVEN A HEADING UPON TKOF IT WOULD HAVE INSTANTLY CUED ME IN TO AN ERROR IN MY INTERP OF THE DEP PROC AND I WOULD HAVE QUESTIONED THE CTLR ABOUT WHAT TO DO. THE NEXT DAY I CONTACTED THE ORL TWR TO INFORM THEM OF WHAT HAPPENED. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS A RPT BEING FILED ON IT AND THAT THEY HAVE HAD PROBS WITH THIS DEP PROC WITH SEVERAL PLTDEVS FROM MISTERP OF THE DEP PROC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 582422: I WAS ONBOARD A PA28R-201; AS THE SAFETY PLT FOR PRACTICE APCHS INTO MLB AND FPR FOR A COLLEAGUE OF MINE. WHEN THE PIC ASKED WHAT HAD GONE WRONG THE CTLR RESPONDED BY TELLING HIM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEP AND THAT THE SUPVR JUST WANTED TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT. THE PIC CONTACTED THE SUPVR TO FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE HAD 10 INCIDENTS IN 8 DAYS WITH THE SAME DEP AND THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO REVISE IT. HE ALSO WAS TOLD THAT THE CTLR AT ORL HAD GIVEN A CLRNC FOR THE SW DEP. HERE IS WHERE THE MISTAKE WAS MADE BECAUSE THE SE DEP WAS FLOW. THE SE DEP SECTION OF THE DEP PROC DID NOT SPECIFY A SPECIFIC RTE FOR A TKOF ON RWY 25; BUT RATHER A TURN TO A 60 DEG HDG TO 4 DME FROM THE ORL VOR WHEN A R TURN TO 110 DEGS; CLB AND MAINTAIN 1500 FT. THE SE DEP IS ONLY FLOWN WHEN RWY 13 IS IN USE. WHEN I THINK OF A SE DEP IT PERTAINS TO MY INTENDED FLT PATHAND NOT THE RWY I AM DEPARTING.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.