AA-1 PLT IS CONFUSED WITH ATC'S ASSERTION THAT HE ENTERED CLASS B NEAR EWR.

Date: 2003-05 · Aircraft: Yankee AA1 · Phase: cruise

Anomalies: airspace-violation-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far

Synopsis

AA-1 PLT IS CONFUSED WITH ATC'S ASSERTION THAT HE ENTERED CLASS B NEAR EWR.

Narrative

I WAS ON A FLT FROM 4N1 TO LDJ ON 2 DIFFERENT DAYS. SINCE THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TWICE; I THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE RPTED TO YOU. OFTEN; WHEN NY APCH IS TOO BUSY FOR FLT FOLLOWING INTO THE CLASS B; I CALL MORRISTOWN TWR AND REQUEST A NS TRANSITION AT 2500 FT. IN BOTH OF THESE CASES; MORRISTOWN TWR APPROVED THE TRANSITION. ONCE AT CHATHAM; I REQUESTED A FREQ CHANGE (GRANTED) AND IMMEDIATELY CALLED NEWARK TWR. ON BOTH DAYS; THE FOLLOWING CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE: I RPTED OVER CHATHAM; LEVEL 2500 FT; AND REQUESTED DIRECT LINDEN. NEWARK TWR ADVISED YOU'RE IN THE CLASS B. I CHKED THAT MY ALTIMETER SETTING WAS CORRECT. I ADVISED I WAS OVER CHATHAM; NDB. NEWARK TWR STATED THAT'S IN THE B AIRSPACE AT 2500 FT. RATHER THAN ARGUE; I JUST ASKED FOR A CLRNC TO LINDEN; WHICH WAS GRANTED. THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED; I ASSUMED THERE WAS AN INEXPERIENCED CTLR. BUT TODAY; IT HAPPENED AGAIN. I ASKED THE CTLR TO LOOK AT THE CHART. SHE SAID THE CLASS B 'BEGINS AT 1800 FT.' I INFORMED HER THAT ON MY CHARTS; WHICH ARE CURRENT; THE CLASS B BEGINS AT 3000 FT OVER CHATHAM NDB. ON THE SECOND OCCASION; I WAS AVOIDING CITATION TFC; AND BEGINNING A DSCNT FOR LNDG. THIS WAS THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME TO GET INCORRECT INFO. ONCE ON THE GND; I CONFIRMED THAT THE CLASS B AIRSPACE BEGINS AT 3000 FT MSL. THE SECOND TIME THIS HAPPENED; I CALLED NEWARK TWR AND TOLD THEM THE PROB. THE CTLR SAID THAT NO VIOLATION TOOK PLACE; SINCE I WAS CLRED INTO THE CLASS B. I WASN'T SURE HOW TO FIX THIS PROB.

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