A PA28T TRAINING FLT IS ABORTED WITH A RETURN TO BASE AFTER A DISAGREEMENT BREAKS OUT BTWN THE STUDENT AND THE CFI REGARDING THE SAFETY ISSUES RELATED TO AN ATTEMPTED LNDG AT ZZZ; US.

Date: 2004-03 · Aircraft: PA-28R Cherokee Arrow All Series

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-other-unknown|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence|inflight-event-encounter-unstabilized-approach

Synopsis

A PA28T TRAINING FLT IS ABORTED WITH A RETURN TO BASE AFTER A DISAGREEMENT BREAKS OUT BTWN THE STUDENT AND THE CFI REGARDING THE SAFETY ISSUES RELATED TO AN ATTEMPTED LNDG AT ZZZ; US.

Narrative

DURING A COMMERCIAL TRAINING XCOUNTRY FLT; THE INSTRUCTOR MADE A DIVERSION PROC TO AN ARPT THAT HE PERSONALLY HAD NOT BEEN TO. AS FAR AS THE STUDENT'S PERCEPTION OF THE INSTRUCTOR'S FAMILIARITY WITH THE CONDITIONS; TERRAIN; AND ARPT ITSELF; HVY DOUBT SURFACED. A DSCNT WAS MADE INTO THE LNDG ENVIRONMENT WITH WINDS AT +21 KTS AND A SURROUNDING TERRAIN RISING TO 2000-3000 FT AGL. THE STUDENT ABORTED THE LNDG AND MISCOMMUNICATED HIS INTENTIONS BY STATING 'I'M ABORTING THIS.' THE INSTRUCTOR INTERPED THE ANNOUNCEMENT AS AN ABORTED LNDG ONLY AND WISHED TO CONTINUE FOR A SECOND TRY. WHEN THE STUDENT VOICED HIS CONCERNS ABOUT THE HIGH WINDS AND HIGH TERRAIN ELEVATION AND THE DECISION TO DISCONTINUE TO THE ARPT; THE INSTRUCTOR BECAME FRUSTRATED. THIS DECISION OF THE STUDENT WAS INTERPED AS AN 'ANTI-AUTH' HAZARDOUS ATTITUDE. WHEN CONFRONTED ABOUT THE CHOICE; A COCKPIT CONFLICT ENSUED. THE CONFLICT WAS FAIRLY BRIEF; OF ABOUT 5 MINS. HOWEVER; THE WORDS AND COLORFUL EXPLETIVES THAT WERE USED WERE UNPROFESSIONAL ON THE PART OF BOTH INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT. THIS COCKPIT DISAGREEMENT WAS; IN THE STUDENT'S VIEW; CAUSED BY NUMEROUS FACTORS; INCLUDING LACK OF PLANNING AND MISCOM ON THE STUDENT'S BEHALF. WHAT CONTRIBUTED WAS THE LACK OF CONFIDENCE BY THE STUDENT IN THE INSTRUCTOR'S FAMILIARITY AND JUDGEMENT CONCERNING THE DIVERSION TO THE SHORT RWY; MOUNTAINOUS ARPT; WITH HIGH WINDS PRESENT. ALTHOUGH THE STUDENT FELT HIS SAFETY WAS COMPROMISED; HE COULD HAVE VOICED HIS CONCERNS IN A MORE PROFESSIONAL WAY. THE FLT CONTINUED SAFELY WITH AN UNEXPECTED COOPERATION BY BOTH PARTIES TO THE ORIGINATING ARPT. MOST LIKELY DUE TO THE DESIRE BY BOTH PLTS TO LAND AND RELIEVE THE PRESENT COCKPIT TENSION. ALL THINGS CONSIDERED; (LACK OF PLANNING; FAMILIARITY; POOR JUDGEMENT; HAZARDOUS TERRAIN; HIGH WINDS; MECHANICAL TURB; COCKPIT MISCOM/CONFLICT) THE FLT MAY HAVE ENDED WORSE HAD THE STUDENT NOT ELECTED TO DISCONTINUE TO THE DIVERSION ARPT. IN MY POINT OF VIEW MY STUDENT GOT BEHIND THE ACFT. WE THEN DSNDED TO OVERFLY THE FIELD AND ENTER A L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 19. WE CONTINUED TO DSND BELOW TPA AND ENTERED THE DOWNWIND AT A 90 DEG ANGLE FAILING TO COMPENSATE FOR WIND AND ALT. WE CONTINUED FOR RWY 19 AND OVERSHOT IT BY ABOUT 3/4 OF A MI.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.