DURING ROLLOUT RIC RWY 34; LCL CTLR ISSUES HOLD SHORT CLRNC RWY 02 FOR LNDG TFC TO SCHEDULED ACR. RPTR BELIEVES CLRNC WAS INCORRECT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 02 AT HS-1 HOLD SHORT LINE. RPTR ALSO STATES THAT A LAND AND HOLD SHORT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN WITH THE LNDG CLRNC; NOT DURING ROLLOUT.

Date: 2004-05 · Aircraft: Medium Large Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng

Anomalies: conflict-ground-conflict|less-severe|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|ground-incursion-runway

Synopsis

DURING ROLLOUT RIC RWY 34; LCL CTLR ISSUES HOLD SHORT CLRNC RWY 02 FOR LNDG TFC TO SCHEDULED ACR. RPTR BELIEVES CLRNC WAS INCORRECT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 02 AT HS-1 HOLD SHORT LINE. RPTR ALSO STATES THAT A LAND AND HOLD SHORT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN WITH THE LNDG CLRNC; NOT DURING ROLLOUT.

Narrative

DURING LNDG ROLLOUT (100 KTS) ON RWY 34; TWR ISSUED A CLRNC 'HOLD SHORT RWY 02; ON RWY 34.' I READ THE CLRNC BACK EXACTLY AS STATED. UPON APCHING TXWY Q -- STILL ON RWY 34; THE CTLR; BECOMING AGITATED; ASKED IF WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 02. I STATED WE WERE ON RWY 34 AND STILL SHORT OF RWY 02. THE CTLR NOW CLEARLY UPSET; STATED WE HAD CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE 'A WAYS BACK' AND NOW ISSUED A CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 02. NO CONFLICT EVER EXISTED. THE TFC LNDG ON RWY 02 HAD ALREADY EXITED AT TXWY B AND WAS ON TXWY A AND WE HAD NEVER EVEN GOTTEN TO RWY 02. I THINK THE CLRNC ISSUED WAS INCORRECT AND POORLY ISSUED. IF THE CTLR WANTED US TO HOLD SHORT OF 'HS-1;' HE SHOULD HAVE STATED SO! IT SHOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN ISSUED AS A LAND AND HOLD SHORT CLRNC PRIOR TO LNDG! NOT AS A 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 02 ON RWY 34' DURING ROLLOUT. I ALSO DO NOT REMEMBER XING THE FLASHING WHITE LIGHTS MARKING THE HOLD SHORT HS-1 POINT ON RWY 34. PERHAPS THEY WERE NOT ON; OR NOT INSTALLED; I DON'T KNOW. IN ANY EVENT; HS-1 DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE CLEARLY MARKED. UPON REFLECTION OF THE WHOLE EVENT; I ALMOST FEEL AS IF WE WERE 'BAITED' TO FAIL. THE CLRNC WAS AMBIGUOUS AT BEST; AND ISSUED 'LATE IN THE GAME.' THE TONE IN THE CTLR'S VOICE WAS AS IF HE WAS WAITING FOR US TO 'CROSS THE LINE.' CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR RECOGNIZED THEY HAD PASSED THE HS-1 LINE; BUT THOUGHT THEY WERE WELL CLR OF RWY 02 FOR LNDG TFC. THE RPTR HAD NEVER HEARD THE TWR USE THEIR DEPICTED HS-1 POINT IN A LNDG CLRNC WHEN HOLDING ON THE RWY WAS REQUIRED.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.