C180 PLT IN A NON MOVEMENT AREA ON THE ARPT CALLED GND CTL FOR TAXI INFO BEFORE STARTING ENG. AFTER ENG START; THE PLT CALLED GND CTL FOR TAXI AND WAS THREATENED WITH A VIOLATION FOR NOT TAXIING IN A TIMELY MANNER.

Date: 2006-02 · Aircraft: Cessna 180 Skywagon · Phase: taxi

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance

Synopsis

C180 PLT IN A NON MOVEMENT AREA ON THE ARPT CALLED GND CTL FOR TAXI INFO BEFORE STARTING ENG. AFTER ENG START; THE PLT CALLED GND CTL FOR TAXI AND WAS THREATENED WITH A VIOLATION FOR NOT TAXIING IN A TIMELY MANNER.

Narrative

CONTACTED GND. INFORMED VFR DEP NBOUND WITH ATIS WITH UNDERSTANDING OF FILING A VFR PDC. CTLR CLRED RWY 2R VIA TXWY C HIGHSPD RWY 15. I REQUESTED RWY 33. CTLR 'UNAVAILABLE.' I RESPONDED 'OK.' PWRED DOWN RADIO TO RUN THE BEFORE START CHKLIST. AFTER ENG START; CALLED GND FOR TAXI. CTLR AGGRESSIVELY INQUIRED OUR WHEREABOUTS; WHY WE HAVEN'T MOVED; TOLD US TO CALL THE TWR FOR POSSIBLE FAA VIOLATION; AND STATED THAT THIS IS A SET TIME BTWN CLRNC TO ACFT MOVEMENT AND SAID THAT IT IS AN FAR. HE WAS; OF COURSE; INCORRECT; BUT AFTER FLT I VERIFIED BY REVIEWING PUBS. SHUT DOWN ENG AND CALLED GND CTLR VIA CELL PHONE. HE REPEATS AGGRESSIVE POS. DEBATE BACK AND FORTH OVER SEMANTICS. STATED THERE WOULD BE A VIOLATION FILED. REQUESTED TO SPEAK TO SUPVR. THE CTLR SAID THAT THE SUPVR WAS NOT ON DUTY. I REQUESTED THE CTLR'S NAME FOR REF BUT HE WOULD NOT YIELD NAME. I INQUIRED IF I NEEDED TO FILE ANY COUNTER WRITTEN RPT OR (NASA). ALSO INQUIRED IF RWY INCURSION; OR TFC CONFLICT. CTLR REPLY; 'NONE BUT COULD HAVE.' I RESPONDED 'WE HAVE NOT MOVED FROM OUR NON MOVEMENT AREA; HOW COULD WE HAVE POSSIBLY CONFLICTED WITH ANY TFC OR RWY INCURSION?' AFTER A VERY UNPRODUCTIVE DEBATE; I ASKED AGAIN IF ANY ACTION WAS TO BE TAKEN. THE CTLR IMPLIED NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN. I THEN DEPARTED WITH NO FURTHER ISSUE. INQUIRED WITH UNION AS TO FOLLOW-UP. THEY REPLY NO ACTION TAKEN OR REQUIRED. IN SUMMARY: I INCORRECTLY THOUGHT A PDC WAS REQUIRED AND MADE THE FIRST CONTACT WITH THAT IN MIND; AS EXPERIENCED IN CLASS B OR CLASS C ARPTS. A MISTAKE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE OF SAFETY. I WAS INCORRECT TO PWR DOWN RADIO FOR ENG START AS PER CHKLIST WITHOUT INDICATING TO CTLR. I WAS WRONGLY OUT OF COM FOR APPROX 2-4 MINS WITH EXECUTING THE BEFORE ENG START CHKLIST. THE CTLR USED POOR JUDGEMENT IN HIS UNPROFESSIONAL THREAT OF VIOLATION AND TONGUE LASHING OVER THE FREQ DEMONSTRATED A POOR UNDERSTANDING OF PLT CTLR RESPONSIBILITIES.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.