A B767-300 IN ATLANTIC AIRSPACE RECEIVED A QUESTIONABLE ROUTING CLRNC FROM NEW YORK OCEANIC.
Synopsis
A B767-300 IN ATLANTIC AIRSPACE RECEIVED A QUESTIONABLE ROUTING CLRNC FROM NEW YORK OCEANIC.
Narrative
BTWN WAYPOINTS 4060N AND 4350N WE REQUESTED AND RECEIVED CLRNC FROM NEW YORK OCEANIC TO DEVIATE 20 NM L TO AVOID CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY ON RTE. CLRNC WAS RESTR TO BE BACK ON COURSE BY WAYPOINT 4350N. WE COMPLIED AND GAVE STANDARD RANDOM TRACK POSREP/MET AT 4350N. MIDWAY BTWN 4350N AND 4440N WE RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITED CLRNC TO PROCEED DIRECT TO 4439N04602W THENCE TO 4440N AND AS FILED. THAT POINT WAS APPROX 80 NM DUE N OF OUR PRESENT POS. DUE TO THE LAG IN COMS OCCASIONED BY OUR CONTINUED RELIANCE ON 1950'S RADIO TECHNOLOGY; RATHER THAN WASTE TIME QUERYING THE CTLR AND WAITING FOR A RESPONSE; WE COMPLIED WITH THE CLRNC. ABOUT 10 MINS AFTER PASSING AND RPTING 4439N04602W WE WERE ASKED BY ATC IF WE WERE STILL DEVIATING; AND WE REPLIED THAT WE HAD NEVER ASKED FOR A DEV BEYOND 4350N AND WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO THE NEXT CLRED POINT; 4440N AS INSTRUCTED. ABOUT 5 MINS LATER; ATC ASKED US FOR OUR PRESENT POS; WHICH WE RELAYED. ABOUT 5 MINS AFTER THAT; ZNY PATCHED THROUGH TO US DIRECTLY AND ASKED FOR THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE CLRNC TO THE POINT N OF TRACK. WE RPTED THAT WE HAD NOT ASKED FOR IT; THERE WAS NO WX PROB; AND WE HAD NO IDEA WHY WE HAD RECEIVED THE CLRNC. A SHORT TIME AFTER PASSING AND RPTING 4440N WE RECEIVED ANOTHER DIRECT CALL FROM ZNY ADVISING US THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF MISUNDERSTANDING ON THEIR END WE HAD DONE NOTHING WRONG. FORTUNATELY; WE WERE ON A RANDOM RTE WELL S OF THE NAT'S; OTHERWISE; SUCH A DEV MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 705194: BOTH CAPT AND I COPIED DOWN COORDINATES. I LOADED THE POS IN THE FMC. THE POS WAS 77 NM N OF THE PPOS -- A 90 DEG L TURN. I ERASED THE POINT PRIOR TO CONFIRMING WITH THE CAPT AND RE-ENTERED. I THOUGHT I MADE AN ERROR TYPING. I RELOADED THE POINT. STILL 77 NM N. THE CAPT AND I CONFIRMED THE POINT ON WHAT WE COPIED DOWN AND IT WAS THE SAME. I EXECUTED AND LNAV THE POINT. I RECOMMENDED TO THE CAPT THAT WE CONFIRM THE POINT WITH NEW YORK. THE CAPT CONTACTED NEW YORK TO CONFIRM. WE BOTH COPIED DOWN THE COORDINATES AGAIN AND THEY WERE THE SAME. THE CAPT MADE A POS RPT OVER THE NEW POINT WITH 44N40W AS NEXT POS. ABOUT 5 MINS AFTER THE RPT; RECEIVED A CALL FROM NEW YORK WITH A PHONE PATCH FROM NEW YORK OCEANIC. THEY ASKED FOR OUR PPOS. THE CAPT READ THE PPOS. THEY ASKED US WHY WE WERE DEVIATING. THE CAPT'S REPLY WAS THAT WE WERE NOT DEVIATING BUT FLYING THE CLRNC THAT WE RECEIVED FROM NEW YORK COMRDO. NEW YORK ROGER'ED AND TERMINATED PHONE PATCH. THE CAPT MADE THE POS RPT OVER 44N40W WITH SANTA MARIA. ABOUT 10 MINS LATER WE RECEIVED ANOTHER CALL FROM NEW YORK WITH ANOTHER PHONE PATCH FROM NEW YORK OCEANIC. THEY WANTED US NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE PROB; THAT THE PROB WAS ON THEIR END AND WE HAD DONE NOTHING WRONG. VERY STRANGE INDEED. GLAD WE WERE NOT ON A PUBLISHED TRACK.
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