EXISTENCE OF TWO PUBLISHED HOLD PROCEDURES AT MAZIE INTERSECTION RESULTS IN DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF HOLDING CLRNC BETWEEN P180 FLT CREW AND ATC.

Date: 2008-06 · Aircraft: P180 Avanti · Phase: cruise

Anomalies: deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

EXISTENCE OF TWO PUBLISHED HOLD PROCEDURES AT MAZIE INTERSECTION RESULTS IN DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF HOLDING CLRNC BETWEEN P180 FLT CREW AND ATC.

Narrative

ENRTE ON THE AIRWAY V3-419; 237 DEG RADIAL FROM SBJ 20 MI FROM MAZIE INTXN. RECEIVED HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS FROM ATC TO HOLD AS PUBLISHED ON MAZIE INTXN. AS PER THE LOW ALT ENRTE CHART; THE PUBLISHED HOLD OVER MAZIE IS A NW; R TURNS; HOLD ON THE 304 DEG RADIAL FROM ARD (YARDLEY VOR) DISTANCE 10 MI. WE PROCEEDED AS INSTRUCTED PER ATC AND ENTERED THE HOLD. ATC NOTED TO THE CREW OF A WRONG TURN AND DEV FROM THEIR PUBLISHED HOLD. PHILADELPHIA ATC EXPLAINED THAT THE PUBLISHED HOLD WAS SW; L TURNS ON THE 237 DEG RADIAL FROM SBJ 44 MI ON THE MAZIE INTXN. THE CREW EXPLAINED TO ATC OF THE PUBLISHED HOLD PRINTED BY THE CURRENT LOW ALT ENRTE CHART AND HOW FOR THE SAME INTXN (MAZIE) THERE WAS 2 DIFFERENT HOLDS. CONFUSION SET IN MY CREW AND ATC. ATC THEN INSTRUCTED THE CREW FOR A VECTOR AND A DIFFERENT HOLD. ONCE ON THE GND; THE CREW CALLED TRACON TO CLEAR UP THE PUBLISHED HOLD MISPRINT AND ATC DID NOT HAVE ANY ANSWERS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: REPORTER ADVISED THAT; NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT HIS P180 TURBOPROP IS FASTER THAN MANY PRIVATE TURBOJETS; THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLY THE MAIZE ARRIVAL AND ARE; INSTEAD; ROUTINELY GIVEN AN AIRWAYS CLRNC THAT CLOSELY APPROXIMATES IT INCLUDING FLYING V3-419 AS FAR AS SBJ INCLUDING MAZIE INTERSECTION. BECAUSE THEY AREN'T GIVEN THE STAR THEY CONTINUE; APPROPRIATELY; TO NAVIGATE VIA THE LOW ALT AIRWAYS CHART. REPORTER FEELS THE SPEED OF HIS ACFT; SIMILAR TO OR FASTER THAN SOME BUSINESS JETS; LIKELY INFLUENCED THE CTLR PERCEPTION OF THEM AS HAVING BEEN CLEARED VIA THE STAR WHICH WOULD; IN FACT; HAVE MADE THE PATTERN PUBLISHED ON THE STAR APPROPRIATE.

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