CAPT REQUESTED FBI AGENT TO CHECK HIS WEAPON PRIOR TO BOARDING. AGENT ALLOWED ON ACFT WITH BULLETS REMOVED FROM WEAPON.

Date: 1988-02 · Aircraft: Large Transport; Low Wing; 3 Turbojet Eng · Phase: ground

Anomalies: other-unspecified

Synopsis

CAPT REQUESTED FBI AGENT TO CHECK HIS WEAPON PRIOR TO BOARDING. AGENT ALLOWED ON ACFT WITH BULLETS REMOVED FROM WEAPON.

Narrative

AN ARMED INDIVIDUAL WAS BOARDED (WITH PROPER AIRLINE FORM). AS CAPT I ASKED HIM (VIA AGENT) TO CHECK HIS WEAPON. HE REFUSED. HE SAID THE FBI REQUIRED HIM TO CARRY IT AT ALL TIMES. HE SAID HE WOULD 'JUST THIS ONCE' UNLOAD IT AND PUT THE BULLETS IN HIS BRIEFCASE. I FELT IT WAS THE BEST COMPROMISE I COULD GET AT THE TIME AND PERMITTED HIM TO CARRY UNLOADED WEAPON ON BOARD. LATER UPON REVIEWING FAR 108.11 I INTERPRETED IT TO MEAN THAT I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE BOARDING TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WILL NOT CHECK HIS ARMS. I FEEL JUSTIFIED IN REFUSING ARMED INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE SECURITY IS POOR AND COUNTERFEIT CREDENTIALS ARE EASILY OBTAINED. ALSO; MENTAL INSTABILITY IS POSSIBLE IN AUTH INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT; NON-FBI PERSONS. THIS PROB MAY NOT LIE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF NASA RPTING; BUT IT IS A POTENTIAL SAFETY ITEM AND SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I FEEL THAT NO ARMED INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON PART 121 ACRS UP TO AND INCLUDING FBI; SS AND SKY MARSHALLS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR HAS DISCUSSED INCIDENT WITH HIS UNION. ADVISED THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH GUNS ON BOARD ACFT BUT CONFIRMED CERTAIN AUTHORITIES ARE PERMITTED TO CARRY LOADED WEAPONS IN THE CABIN. ANALYST HAD DISCUSSED FAR 108.11 WITH FAA SECURITY AND PASSED THE INFO ON TO RPTR. IT IS NO LONGER PERMITTED TO HAVE WEAPONS STORED IN THE COCKPIT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. AGREED HE WILL HAVE TO PERMIT THE AGENTS TO KEEP THEIR GUNS IN THE FUTURE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.