LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION AND CLOSE PROX BETWEEN 2 ACR ON VISUAL APCHS. ACR X OVERSHOT FINAL FOR PARALLEL RWY. PLT DEVIATION.

Date: 1988-04 · Aircraft: Large Transport; Low Wing; 3 Turbojet Eng

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-track-heading-all-types

Synopsis

LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION AND CLOSE PROX BETWEEN 2 ACR ON VISUAL APCHS. ACR X OVERSHOT FINAL FOR PARALLEL RWY. PLT DEVIATION.

Narrative

OUTBND AT 7000' ON THE SMO 068 DEG R THE CAPT ADVISED ATC THAT THE ARPT WAS IN SIGHT AND THE APCH CTLR CLRED US FOR THE STADIUM VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R. W OF THE COLISEUM WE WERE ASKED TO START A BASE TURN IF FEASIBLE. APCH TOLD US WE WERE #1 FOR THE RWY. WE WERE THEN HANDED OFF TO THE LCL CTLR. WHEN THE CAPT CHKED IN; THE CTLR DID NOT RESPOND; AND WHEN PROMPTED A SECOND TIME HE REPLIED IN A VERY FAST AND ALMOST UNCLEAR VOICE. AFTER SOME DISCUSSION BTWN MYSELF AND THE CAPT ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID THE TWR CTLR TOLD US TO SQUARE OUR BASE TO FINAL FOR 3 DEPS. THE CTLR DID NOT WAIT FOR A RESPONSE OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM US; AND THEN GAVE US A REDUCTION IN AIRSPD TO 180 KTS; AT WHICH TIME THE CAPT ADVISED THE CREW THAT AN ACFT WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 25. AFTER LOOKING TO THE RIGHT AND FACING INTO THE SUN THE F/O ADVISED THAT HE HAD LOST SIGHT OF THE N COMPLEX; AND THE CAPT INSTRUCTED HIM TO START HIS TURN TO FINAL. HE HAD THE HOLLYWOOD PARK IN SIGHT. AT THIS TIME THE CTLR ISSUED A TFC ADVISORY TO US WHEN ACR Y WAS IN OUR 7 O'CLOCK POS. AS A RESULT OF THE CONFUSION AND THE POOR VIS DUE TO THE SUNSET THE EXTENDED CENTERLINE OF RWY 24R WAS EXCEEDED TO THE S. I FEEL THE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE INCIDENT WAS A BREAKDOWN IN COM BTWN THE APCH CTLR WHO ADVISED US WE WERE #1 AND TURNED US ON AN EARLY BASE FOR THE RWY AND THE LCL CTLR WHO IMMEDIATELY TOLD US TO SQUARE OUR TURN AND SLOW THE ACFT. THIS RESULTED IN A LITTLE CONFUSION IN THE COCKPIT WITH CONFIGURING THE ACFT FOR THE APCH. HAD THE APCH CTLR NOT AMENDED THE CLRNC. THE LCL CTLR IN MY JUDGEMENT WOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME FOR THE 3 DEPS HE WANTED OFF THE RWY. ALSO A FACTOR WAS THE TIME OF DAY AND THE FACT THE VIS WAS GREATLY REDUCED AND RESTR AS THE ACFT WAS TURNED WBOUND ON FINAL. THE FACT THAT THE F/O WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE APCH WAS ALSO A FACTOR.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.