Separation was lost when an A321 flight crew accepted an ATC assigned altitude and crossing time that they were unable to meet.

Date: 2010-01 · Aircraft: A321 · Phase: climb

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-altitude-crossing-restriction-not-met|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance

Synopsis

Separation was lost when an A321 flight crew accepted an ATC assigned altitude and crossing time that they were unable to meet.

Narrative

Air Carrier X was climbing from FL310 to FL350. At approx XA:53 I noticed that there was a potential conflict between Air Carrier X and Air Carrier Y; which was westbound at FL340. I asked Air Carrier X how long to reach FL350. He was out of FL339 and he said about 1 minute. I then issued a valid time to climb restriction to reach FL350 by XA:55. At XA:54 the Air Carrier X pilot accepted the clearance. At XA:54.53 Air Carrier X stated that the aircraft was unable to climb further and that he would not meet the restriction and requested vectors. I could not issue a vector to Air Carrier X or it would negate the climb restriction. I then issued a 30 degree right turn to Air Carrier Y and issued traffic to both aircraft. Separation was lost. It is important to state that Air Carrier X actually had 2 minutes to level before the actual loss of separation. I think the issue is that aircraft are exceeding the operational limits trying to climb higher in order to save fuel. As it was; Air Carrier X accepted a climb to an altitude that the aircraft was not capable of making in a timely manner. Also the aircraft was not able to maintain at least a 500 FT per minute climb as required and did not advise ATC of the fact until it was too late to avoid a loss of separation. Also; I would like to see the restriction removed of turning an aircraft issued a climb restriction when the aircraft advises they will no longer be able to make the restriction. In this case I could not turn Air Carrier X without negating the climb restriction which would have transferred the responsibility for separation to me. If I could have turned the aircraft in this case I may have been able to maintain required separation.

Second reporter narrative

We were climbing through FL340 in an Airbus 321 and ATC inquired how long to FL350. I replied 1 minute. He issued a clearance to be level at a zulu time corresponding to one minutes later. I put in a climb rate of 600 FPM and the aircraft lost speed and stopped climbing at about 34.6. I told the First Officer to tell ATC we can't make the restriction which he did. They vectored traffic away but we lost separation. They called it a loss of separation. I misjudged how fast I could climb that last 600 FT.

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