FLC OF AN LGT FAILED TO TURN AS DEPICTED ON THE DEP RTE DUE TO THE TURN AT THEIR ACQUIRED ALT WAS INSUFFICIENT FOR THE HIGH RISING TERRAIN.

Date: 1994-07 · Aircraft: B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

FLC OF AN LGT FAILED TO TURN AS DEPICTED ON THE DEP RTE DUE TO THE TURN AT THEIR ACQUIRED ALT WAS INSUFFICIENT FOR THE HIGH RISING TERRAIN.

Narrative

AT THE REQUEST OF THE CAPT; I AM FILING THIS RPT. I DID NOT ACTUALLY HEAR THE CLRNC AS ISSUED B7 ABQ TWR AS I AM A SO AND WAS BUSY WITH OTHER DUTIES. I DID HEAR THE CAPT RECONFIRM WITH THE FO TO 'TURN L TO 310 DEG HDG ONCE NOISE ABATEMENT PROC WAS COMPLETE.' WE TOOK OFF ON RWY 08 WITH 5 DEG FLAPS PLUS FULL PWR AS WE HAD A SLIGHT TAILWIND; IT WAS HOT (APPROX 90 DEGS) AND HVY WT ACFT. IT TOOK A FAIRLY LONG TIME TO GET CLRED UP AND REDUCE TO CLB PWR. TWR QUERIED WHEN WE WERE GOING TO TURN TO 310 DEGS AS WE WERE STILL ON RWY HDG. ABOUT THAT SAME TIME WE HAD CONSIDERED COMMENCING OUR L TURN; BUT SAW HIGH TERRAIN AHEAD AND TO THE L THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONFLICT IF WE HAD TURNED L; SO THE CAPT PLUS FO OPTED TO CONTINUE STRAIGHT AHEAD UNTIL WE HAD OBSTACLE CLRNC ALT AND THEN TURN L. 'WE' INFORMED TWR THAT WE WERE CONTINUING RWY HDG FOR A LITTLE LONGER. AFTER BEING DIRECTED TO SWITCH TO DEP; WE ADVISED THEM WE WERE VMC PLUS PROCEEDING STRAIGHT AHEAD. AFTER WELL CLR OF THE HIGH TERRAIN; DEP GAVE US VECTOR FOR ALAMOSA. DEP ASKED US ABOUT WHY WE DIDN'T TURN. WE TOLD THEM WE WERE STILL DOING OUR NOISE ABATEMENT PROC. THEY SAID WE SHOULD HAVE TURNED AT 13.5 DME. HEREIN LIES THE PROB: TWR DIRECTED US TO COMPLY WITH OUR NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS AND THEN TURN L WHEREAS THE PUBLISHED DEP STATED TO TURN L AT 13.5 DME. PLEASE REVIEW PUBLISHED DEP TO SEE IF THE GRAPHIC AS WELL AS THE VERBIAGE NEEDS TO BE MORE CLR CONCERNING THE HIGH TERRAIN AND SPECIFIC TURN POINT. ALSO; TWR NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT DIFFERENT ACFT TAKE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF TIME/DISTR TO ACCOMPLISH 'NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS.' IF WHAT THEY WANT IS A L TURN AT 13.5; THEY SHOULD JUST SAY 'FLY PUBLISHED DEP.'

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