B757 ACFT WITH DSCNT AND XING RESTR; RPTR FO ATTEMPTS TO COORD WITH PF CAPT CONCERNING MAKING THE RESTR. CAPT IGNORES FO INPUT AND DOESN'T MAKE THE RESTR.

Date: 1997-11 · Aircraft: B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-undershoot|deviation-altitude-crossing-restriction-not-met|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

B757 ACFT WITH DSCNT AND XING RESTR; RPTR FO ATTEMPTS TO COORD WITH PF CAPT CONCERNING MAKING THE RESTR. CAPT IGNORES FO INPUT AND DOESN'T MAKE THE RESTR.

Narrative

WE WERE ON THE LAST LEG OF A 3 LEG DAY WHICH HAD ORIGINATED IN JFK. SCHEDULED BLOCK WAS 7 HRS 49 MINS FOR THE DAY. DUE TO MUCH HIGHER WINDS ALOFT AND DELAYS INTO LAX; THE LAST LEG STARTED AFTER HAVING 8 HRS AND 40 MINS BLOCK TIME. THE CAPT AND MYSELF WERE HAVING A SLIGHTLY STRAINED RELATIONSHIP IN THE FLT DECK AND THE LONG DAY WAS AGGRAVATING IT. THE CLRNC TO CROSS JOKUR AT 24000 FT LONG BEFORE WE REACHED CRUISING ALT OF 33000 FT. ATC ADVISED US WE COULD LEVEL ANYWHERE BEFORE 33000 FT. THE CAPT SAID; NO; HE WANTED 33000 FT. I THINK IT WAS APPARENT TO MYSELF AND ATC THAT AT THE RATE OF CLB WE WOULDN'T GET LEVEL AND STILL CROSS THE FIX AT THE ALT. WHEN I SUGGESTED WE LEVEL AT 29000 FT HE SAID IT WOULDN'T BE A PROB. I WENT OFF ATC TO GET LAS ATIS. WHEN I CAME BACK HE WAS IN A DSCNT AT THAT TIME. I ASKED HIM IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE JOKUR AT 24000 FT AND HE SAID YES. WE CROSSED JOKUR AT 26500 FT. CTR ASKED US OUR ALT AND HE SAID TO TELL THEM LEVELING AT 24000 FT. I DON'T THINK THEY BELIEVED US. WHEN THEY DIDN'T QUESTION US; THE CAPT TOOK THAT AS NOT A PROB IN THE BUST. AS FOR THE SOLUTION TO THE PROB; I SHOULD HAVE STAYED ON ATC AND ADVISED THEM WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THE XING AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE CAPT'S EGO. I FLEW A FEW DAYS LATER WITH ANOTHER CAPT WHO ADVISED ME TO USE A NASA RPT. WHEN I ASKED THE CAPT WHO BUSTED THE ALT ABOUT A NASA RPT HE SAID DON'T WORRY ABOUT AS ATC DIDN'T QUESTION US ABOUT IT.

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