B757 FLC CHALLENGED AFTER LNDG RWY 4R BY ORD TWR FOR APPARENTLY STOPPING TAXI; AND NOT CLR OF AN ADJOINING RWY.

Date: 2000-07 · Aircraft: B757-200 · Phase: landing

Anomalies: ground-incursion-runway

Synopsis

B757 FLC CHALLENGED AFTER LNDG RWY 4R BY ORD TWR FOR APPARENTLY STOPPING TAXI; AND NOT CLR OF AN ADJOINING RWY.

Narrative

AFTER LNDG ON RWY 4R AT ORD; TWR TOLD US TO TAXI TO THE END OF THE RWY AND TURN L ON TXWY D. AT THE END OF THE RWY; I TURNED L ONTO TXWY D; CLRED THE RWY WHILE MY COPLT CHANGED FREQS FROM TWR TO GND; AND I STOPPED ON TXWY D POINTING N; ABEAM THE RWY 27L PAD. AHEAD OF ME; 'D' TOOK ANOTHER TURN TO THE L; AND I WAS NOT SURE IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ANOTHER L; AND WANTED TO DOUBLECHK WITH GND. BEFORE WE CALLED GND; HOWEVER; THE GND CTLR SHOUTED 'ACR X GET OFF THE RWY!' (VERBIAGE MAY NOT BE EXACT; BUT IT IS CLOSE.) RATHER THAN DEBATE ON THE AIR; I IMMEDIATELY ADDED PWR AND MOVED FURTHER AHEAD (STILL POINTING N); AND MY FO ASKED 'IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH?' AGAIN I CANNOT QUOTE THE CTLR EXACTLY; BUT HE SHOUTED BACK 'YES; AND DON'T STOP ON THE RWY!' AT THIS POINT I KEYED THE MIKE AND SAID; 'THIS IS THE CAPT; AND I WASN'T SURE WHERE TO GO;' TO WHICH THE CTLR RESPONDED WITH ANOTHER SHOUT; 'I'M STANDING NEXT TO YOUR PREVIOUS CTLR; AND I HEARD HER (I THINK IT WAS 'HER') TELL YOU TO TURN L ON DELTA!' I TOLD MY COPLT TO JUST ANSWER WITH A 'ROGER;' AND PROCEEDED TO TURN L ONTO THE WBOUND PART OF 'DELTA;' PAST D6 AND D5 TOWARD OUR GATE. I WAS ABOUT TO ASK MY COPLT TO GET A NUMBER TO CALL WHEN THE CTLR CAME ON AND GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER; WHICH WE COPIED DOWN. I CALLED THE NUMBER WHEN WE GOT TO COMPANY OPS AND TALKED TO THE SUPVR. I IDENTED MYSELF; AND SAID THAT I THOUGHT WE HAD A MISUNDERSTANDING. HE RESPONDED WITH 'YOU STOPPED ON THE RWY.' I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT I DID NOT THINK WE DID; AND ADDED THAT 'IF I CAUSED YOU A PROB; IT WAS UNINTENTIONAL AND I APOLOGIZE.' HE TOLD ME THAT THEY (THE CTLRS AS A GROUP; I ASSUME) HAD BEEN HAVING PROBS WITH ACR X PLTS; AND THEY KNEW 'WHAT'S GOING ON;' AND THEY NO LONGER THOUGHT WE (THE ACR X PLTS) WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL. HE RELATED AN INCIDENT TO ME THAT OCCURRED A WK OR 2 EARLIER INVOLVING ANOTHER ACR X FLT; AND SAID WE WERE BEING UNSAFE; AND THEY MIGHT HAVE TO START VIOLATING ACR X PLTS. I TOLD HIM THAT I WOULD NEVER DELIBERATELY ENDANGER MY CREW OR PAX; AND AGAIN THAT I WAS SORRY FOR ANY PROBS OR MISUNDERSTANDINGS. ALSO; I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH ORD; AND THAT'S WHY I STOPPED AT ALL. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN ORD IN 9 YRS (I CHKED MY PREVIOUS SCHEDULES SINCE THE CONVERSATION; AND IT WAS ACTUALLY THE SECOND); I EXPLAINED. THE SUPVR BELIEVED MY SINCERITY; I THINK; AND SAID THE INCIDENT WOULD GO NO FURTHER. IN MY HOTEL ROOM THAT NIGHT; I WENT OVER THE ORD GND CHART CAREFULLY; AND I STILL HONESTLY BELIEVE I WAS CLR OF THE RWY. HOWEVER; I DID STOP BEFORE MAKING A SECOND L TURN AND CONTINUING W DOWN THE TXWY D. I ATTRIBUTE THAT TO MY OWN LACK OF FAMILIARITY WITH ORD AND NOT KNOWING THE CTLR'S INTENTION WHEN TOLD TO 'TURN L ON DELTA' AT THE END OF RWY 4R. WHILE I THINK THE GND CTLR WAS COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL IN HIS COMS AND REMARKS (GND CTL FREQ IS NOT THE PLACE FOR SHOUTING; BLAMING; OR DISCUSSING INCIDENTS); THE SUPVR WAS VERY POLITE AND PROFESSIONAL ON THE PHONE.

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