ENCOUNTERING INCLEMENT CONDITIONS; B752 FLC TAXI PAST ILS CRITICAL AREA HAVING TAXIED FROM DEICE LOCATION.

Date: 2001-03 · Aircraft: B757-200

Anomalies: conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|ground-incursion-taxiway|ground-incursion-runway

Synopsis

ENCOUNTERING INCLEMENT CONDITIONS; B752 FLC TAXI PAST ILS CRITICAL AREA HAVING TAXIED FROM DEICE LOCATION.

Narrative

ON ARR AT THE ACFT; WE WERE MET BY THE DEICING OPERATOR; WHO WANTED TO KNOW IF WE WERE READY TO DEICE WITH TYPE I FLUID AT A 50/50 MIX. CURRENT TEMP WAS 1 DEG C WITH MIXED RAIN AND SNOW AND A 15 KT WIND. SOME ACCUMULATION WAS APPARENT AND WITH THE SHORT HOLDOVER TIME OF TYPE I; I ASKED HIM TO WAIT ABOUT 5-10 MINS. AS WE GOT SET UP; OTHER ACFT WERE CALLING FOR DEICE; AND AT ABOUT THE 5 MIN MARK; WE GAVE THE GO AHEAD FOR DEICE TO BEGIN. AS SOON AS IT WAS FINISHED; WE CALLED FOR MARSHALLING AND WERE TOLD TO DELAY ABOUT 10 MINS WHILE OTHER ACFT WERE READIED FOR DEP. WE EXPLAINED WE HAD A HOLDOVER TIME PROB AND DID NOT WANT TO DEICE AGAIN; IF POSSIBLE. THEY SAID SOMEONE WOULD BE BY SHORTLY. AFTER ABOUT 5 MINS WE WERE CLRED TO START AND TAXI AND AS WE APCHED THE ATC CTLED TXWY; WE WERE #1 FOR THE RWY. TEMP WAS STILL ABOVE FREEZING AND NO ACCUMULATION WAS NOTED. IT LOOKED LIKE WE HAD DODGED A DEICING BULLET. GND CTL WAS CONTACTED AND WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI TO THE RWY. THE TXWY FROM THE RAMP TO THE RWY IS ONLY ABOUT 300-400 FT LONG AND WE COMPLETED THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST AND CONTACTED TWR JUST AS WE ROLLED TO A STOP AT THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE. THE TWR'S FIRST WORDS WERE 'VERIFY YOU ARE HOLDING SHORT OF THE ILS CRITICAL AREA.' WE TOLD THEM NO; WE WERE AT THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE AND HE QUERIED AN ACFT ON THE ILS ABOUT SIGNAL QUALITY. FORTUNATELY; NO PROBS WERE NOTED AND THE ACFT LANDED SHORTLY THEREAFTER. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF AND THE FLT PROCEEDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. FACTORS IN THIS INCIDENT WERE ALLOWING MYSELF TO BE RUSHED; IFR WX WHICH WAS NOT LOW ENOUGH TO BE A MAJOR CONCERN; AND A HABIT OF TAXIING ALL WK TO THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE IN VFR CONDITIONS. MY HABIT NEEDS TO CHANGE SO THAT THE ILS LINE IS ALWAYS THE LIMIT UNLESS I AM SURE IT IS SAFE AND ALLOWABLE TO PROCEED.

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Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.