THE TXWY STOPWAY RAMP AREA WHERE RWY 8R AND RWY 4 CONVERGE AT EL PASO; TX; REQUIRES EXTRA VIGILANCE AS RPTED BY AN ACR PLT WHO FOUND HIMSELF ACROSS THE HOLD LINE WITHOUT CLRNC.

Date: 2001-11 · Aircraft: B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: taxi

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|ground-incursion-runway

Synopsis

THE TXWY STOPWAY RAMP AREA WHERE RWY 8R AND RWY 4 CONVERGE AT EL PASO; TX; REQUIRES EXTRA VIGILANCE AS RPTED BY AN ACR PLT WHO FOUND HIMSELF ACROSS THE HOLD LINE WITHOUT CLRNC.

Narrative

ELP 10-9 CHART WILL HELP IN UNDERSTANDING THE FOLLOWING NARRATIVE. AFTER PUSHBACK FROM GATE XA AND DISCONNECT FROM GND CREW; ACFT WAS FACING S. DEP RWY WAS RWY 8R. GND CTL INSTRUCTED A L TURN ON THE RAMP AND PROCEED E ON THE RAMP TO TURN L ON TXWY J AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 8R. WE WERE ALSO INSTRUCTED TO TAXI BTWN AN AIRLINE B737 PUSHING FROM GATE XB AND AN INBOUND AIRLINE MD80 HOLDING ON THE RAMP BTWN TXWY J AND TXWY F. WHILE NEGOTIATING THIS TIGHT BUT ADEQUATE AVENUE; WE WERE THEN TOLD TO TAXI BEHIND THE MD80 ONTO TXWY J. AS WE WERE DOING THIS I DIDN'T NOTICE THE HOLD SHORT LINE UNTIL I HAD ALREADY TAXIED PAST IT. GND CTL QUERIED US AS TO OUR INTENTIONS AND INFORMED US WE WERE ON THE RWY (OVERRUN). THEY ASKED IF WE WERE READY FOR TKOF. WE REPLIED THAT WE WERE NOT AND ASKED TO TAXI CLR. WE TAXIED CLR OF THE RWY VIA TXWY K. TAXI CHKS AND CABIN PREPARATIONS WERE THEN COMPLETED WITHOUT INCIDENT. TKOF CLRNC WAS RECEIVED AND WE DEPARTED EL PASO ON RWY 8R. CONFUSION AROSE OVER THE CONGESTED RAMP AS WELL AS NUMEROUS TXWYS WHICH CONVERGE ON THE OVERRUN AREA OF RWY 8R/26L W END. THIS OVERRUN AREA LOOKS LIKE A TXWY (BLACK TOP) WITH YELLOW TAXI LINES PAINTED ALL OVER IT. CREWS SHOULD BE EXTRA VIGILANT HERE WHEN THERE IS AN E RWY OP.

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