A CARJ CREW; DSNDING INTO GRB; LEFT THE SPOILERS EXTENDED AND LET THE SPD DECAY; A RESULTANT STICK SHAKER (STALL WARNING).

Date: 2001-11 · Aircraft: Regional Jet CL65; Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: approach

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|inflight-event-encounter-unstabilized-approach|other-pilot-experience-spoilers-left-deployed

Synopsis

A CARJ CREW; DSNDING INTO GRB; LEFT THE SPOILERS EXTENDED AND LET THE SPD DECAY; A RESULTANT STICK SHAKER (STALL WARNING).

Narrative

LATE DSCNT FROM ZMP. 15 NM FROM IAF (2700 FT) AT 12000 FT. PERFORMED CHKLISTS; SLOWED DOWN; DSCNT ALL WENT FINE; BUT RUSHED. DISCUSSED THE FACT WE HAD TIME TO GET DOWN/SLOW DOWN. CAPT SAID 'I HAVE THE SPOILERS' AND FULLY DEPLOYED THEM. GEAR DOWN BEFORE FLAPS TO HELP SLOW. FLAPS FROM 8 DEGS TO 20 DEGS AS SOON AS SPD PERMITTED. INCREASED THRUST FROM IDLE TO 30-40% TO SHORTEN AIRSPD TREND VECTOR. FLAPS 30 DEGS TO 45 DEGS JUST PRIOR TO INTERCEPTING GS. PITCHED DOWN ON GLIDE STILL SLIGHTLY FAST; SLOWING RAPIDLY. MOMENTARY SHAKER (LESS THAN 1 SECOND). INCREASED THRUST AND CALLED FOR MISSED APCH PROC. RIGHT AFTER THE SHAKER; THE CAPT REALIZED HE LEFT THE SPOILERS OUT AND IMMEDIATELY RETRACTED THEM. I ALREADY HAD THE THRUST UP AND AS SOON AS THE UPPER AND LOWER BARBER POLES WENT AWAY (1-2 SECONDS LATER) PITCHED UP AND SHOT THE MISSED. NUMEROUS CAUTION/STATUS MESSAGES: 1) L ANGLE OF ATTACK HEATER ELEMENT FAILED ABOUT 15 MINS PRIOR. MEL STATES THAT STALL INDICATIONS ARE NOT RELIABLE. 2) GEAR DISAGREEMENT WARNING (ALSO NOSE DOOR CAUTION) BECAUSE THE FLAPS WERE NOT SELECTED OUT OF ZERO SO THE STANDBY PUMPS WERE NOT ON. 3) SPOILER DEPLOYED CAUTION FROM STATUS TO CAUTION; CONTINUOUS IGNITION STATUS MESSAGE JUST PRIOR/AT SHAKER. 4) INFO OVERLOADED CAPT WHO HAD THE SPOILERS. 5) ALLOWING CAPT TO CTL MY FLT CTLS; SPLITTING PF DUTIES. RETRACTED SPOILERS. DID NOT TRY TO RECAPTURE GLIDE -- WENT MISSED. HUMAN FACTORS: I HAD ABOUT 60 HRS IN AIRPLANE. WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DSND AND SLOW IN TIME; PRIOR TO FAF; BUT THEN GOT GEAR DISAGREEMENT. DISCUSSED IT WHILE PUTTING FLAPS 8 DEGS/20 DEGS. RUSHED APCH. EARLY IN THE MORNING -- FATIGUE. WE WERE WITHIN DUTY/FLT LIMITS; BUT BOTH OUR BODIES WERE USED TO A NORMAL SLEEP SCHEDULE. CONSISTENCY IN SCHEDULING IS NEEDED. TRAINING NEEDS TO CHANGE. ONCE SPOILERS ARE EXTENDED; DO NOT TAKE YOUR HAND OFF. COMMAND WHAT YOU NEED DONE BY PNF. ABOVE 76% PWR LEVER ANGLE; SPOILERS SHOULD AUTO-RETRACT.

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