B757-200 CREW REDUCED ATC CLRED SPD ON APCH BECAUSE C3 WX EXISTED WHICH REQUIRED AN AUTOLAND. THE CREW DID NOT GET ATC CLRNC FOR THE SPD REDUCTION.

Date: 2002-11 · Aircraft: B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: approach

Anomalies: deviation-speed-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence

Synopsis

B757-200 CREW REDUCED ATC CLRED SPD ON APCH BECAUSE C3 WX EXISTED WHICH REQUIRED AN AUTOLAND. THE CREW DID NOT GET ATC CLRNC FOR THE SPD REDUCTION.

Narrative

WHILE ON APCH DOING A CAT III APCH; ATC ASKED TO MAINTAIN 160 KTS TO THE MARKER. I SLOWED 2 MI PRIOR TO 128 KTS; THE APCH SPD SO AS TO ARRIVE ON SPD AT THE MARKER. ACR Y BEHIND COULD ONLY SLOW TO 148 KTS. I WAS IN THE SLOT AT THE MARKER 5 MI OUT. I FELT THAT THIS WAS A SAFE OP DOING A CAT III APCH. INSTRUCTED TO CALL ATC AND HE SAID I DEVIATED FROM A CLRNC. SLOWING TO BE AT APCH SPD IS NOT A VIOLATION. ACR Y WENT AROUND BECAUSE HE WAS FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE. WHEN I CALLED ATC AS REQUESTED AND SPOKE WITH SOMEONE THERE; HE ASKED; 'DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU WERE ASKED TO CALL?' AND I SAID 'NO.' HE THEN STARTED BY SAYING THAT I HAD VIOLATED ATC DIRECTIVE BY SLOWING BELOW 160 KTS AT THE MARKER AND TELLING ME HOW I COST ACR Y $4000 TO GO AROUND; AND IF HIS GUYS GOT CHARGED WITH THE VIOLATION; THAT THEY WOULD SPEND SOME TIME ON THE BEACH. WITH THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE; I DID NOT WANT TO CONVERSE WITH HIM. IF HE HAD TALKED TO ME IN A CIVIL TONE; I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY TO COOPERATE WITH HIM. FOR THE CONDITIONS AT THE ARPT AT THAT TIME AND HAVING TO DO A CAT III APCH; I SLOWED TO APCH SPD ABOUT 2 MI FROM THE MARKER AND IN LNDG CONFIGN. THE ACFT WAS LIGHT; THUS A SLOWER APCH SPD. IN MY OPINION; THE CTLR HAD THE ACFT TOO CLOSE TOGETHER FOR THE CONDITIONS. THEY WERE RUNNING AS IF IT WERE VFR. I OPERATED THE ACFT IN A SAFE MANNER AND TO GET MY PAX TO THEIR DEST IN A SAFE MANNER.

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