B757-200 ARR TO JFK ALLEGED EXCESSIVE VECTORS BY ZNY WHEN ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION COULD NOT BE MET. DISCUSSED WITH FAC AFTER LNDG.

Date: 2007-12 · Aircraft: B757-200 · Phase: descent

Anomalies: other-atc-handling

Synopsis

B757-200 ARR TO JFK ALLEGED EXCESSIVE VECTORS BY ZNY WHEN ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION COULD NOT BE MET. DISCUSSED WITH FAC AFTER LNDG.

Narrative

DURING THE ARR INTO THE NEW YORK AREA WE WERE ON A VECTOR FOR LENDY AT FL230. THE CTLR ISSUED CLRNC TO DSND TO FL190. THE CLRNC WAS READ BACK BY ME AS PNF. NEXT THE CTLR CLRED US TO FLY DIRECT TO LENDY AND CROSS LENDY AT FL190. I RESPONDED 'UNABLE.' THE CTLR RESPONDED WITH A 'WHY' OR 'WHY NOT' AND I EXPRESSED MY PROX TO LENDY AND THAT I WAS TOO HIGH TO MAKE THE CLRNC. THE CTLR THEN CLRED US TO '...THEN HDG 020....' I READ BACK THE CLRNC AND ADDED 'IS THIS A PENALTY?' THE CTLR RESPONDED '...I MIGHT TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY AROUND.' ACR X WAS FOLLOWING ACR Y AND DURING A SERIES OF VECTORS AFTER THE 020 DEGS; 360 DEGS; 280 DEGS; 210 DEGS; 220 DEGS.... ACR X WAS EVENTUALLY REDIRECTED AND CLRED TO LENDY. I BELIEVE THE FLT FLEW APPROX 75 EXTRA MI AT FL190 AND WE WERE PUT BEHIND AT LEAST 3 OTHER ACFT. WHEN WE WERE PASSED OFF BY THE CTLR TO APCH; I ASKED HIM FOR A PHONE NUMBER AND HIS INITIALS. THE CTLR WAS A BIT FRUSTRATED WITH MY REQUEST AND GAVE THE PHONE NUMBER. I AGAIN ASKED FOR THE INITIALS OF '...THIS CTLR' TO WHICH HE RESPONDED; '...I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT....' OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. I PHONED THE FLT MGR UPON ARR AT JFK WHERE MY FUEL PRIOR TO THE VECTORS HAD ME TOUCHING DOWN WITH OVER 9000 LBS OF FUEL. I ENDED UP TOUCHING DOWN WITH 5900 LBS OF FUEL. I THEN SPOKE WITH A SUPVR WHO TOLD ME THE CTLR SPOKE WITH HIM AND THAT IN TRAIL HAD TO BE MET ONCE I REFUSED THE CLRNC. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY MY FLT WAS HANDLED AND I FEEL THE CTLR GAVE US A PUNITIVE SERIES OF VECTORS DUE TO MY NOT ACCEPTING A CLRNC THE COPLT AND I FELT WE COULD NOT MEET.

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