B757 CAPT REPORTS BEING DISPATCHED ON ETOPS FLIGHT WITH AUTO 1 PRESSURIZATION CONTROLLER ON MEL. REPAIRS ARE MADE PRIOR TO FLIGHT.

Date: 2008-05 · Aircraft: B757-200 · Phase: ground

Anomalies: aircraft-equipment-problem-less-severe

Synopsis

B757 CAPT REPORTS BEING DISPATCHED ON ETOPS FLIGHT WITH AUTO 1 PRESSURIZATION CONTROLLER ON MEL. REPAIRS ARE MADE PRIOR TO FLIGHT.

Narrative

ARRIVED AT ACFT ON TIME; AND WAS ADVISED THAT THE AUTO 1 CONTROLLER FOR PRESSURIZATION WAS INOP. MY FO WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH ETOPS OPS WITH AN INOP AUTO 1 CONTROLLER; AND I HAD MY RESERVATIONS ALSO. THE MECH (RAMPER?) TOLD ME HE WAS CHKING TO SEE IF IT WAS DEFERRABLE OF IF THERE WAS AN MEL. I TOLD THE YOUNG MECH (OR RAMP WORKER?) THAT I WANTED TO KNOW THE REASON IT WAS INOP; AND HE SAID HE WOULD FIND OUT. FLT ATTENDANTS WERE BRIEFED ON ALL CONTINGENCIES ABOUT THE SITUATION; AND THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH WHATEVER DECISION WAS MADE CONCERNING SAFETY. 10 MINS LATER DURING COCKPIT SETUP; ANOTHER (LEAD?) MECH CAME INTO THE COCKPIT AND SAID 'HI; I NEED TO PUT THIS STICKER FOR DEFERRAL ON THE PANEL HERE.' WHEN I ASKED FOR WHAT; HE REPLIED 'THE AUTO 1 CONTROLLER IS INOP; BUT THAT WE HAD THE AUTO 2 PER THE MEL; AND EVEN IF WE LOSE THAT ONE; WE HAD A MANUAL BACKUP.' I ASK THE REASON IT WAS INOP; AND HE COULDN'T TELL ME. I EXPLAINED I HAVE A PROB WITH NOT KNOWING WHY SOMETHING IS BROKEN; ESPECIALLY ON AN ETOPS FLT. HE THEN TOLD ME I WOULD HAVE TO TALK WITH MY CHIEF PLT IF I TURNED THE ACFT DOWN. (I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT KIND OF PRESSURE HE WAS TRYING TO PUT ON ME WITH THAT COMMENT; I IGNORED IT.) HE THEN EXPLAINED TO ME HOW ETOPS WORKS; 'YOU FLY OUT 180 MINS AND IF YOU HAVE A PROB; YOU COME BACK; AND IF YOU ARE PAST THAT POINT; YOU CONTINUE.' I THEN WENT INTO OPS TO TALK WITH DISPATCH AND MAINT TO GO OVER ALL ISSUES WE WERE CONCERNED WITH ON THIS FLT. IT ENDED WITH MAINT TELLING ME THEY WERE GIVING ME A PERFECTLY GOOD ACFT FOR FLT. THAT IS WHEN I FINALLY PUSHED BACK IN A VERY RESPECTFUL WAY; AND SAID 'MAINT; EXCUSE ME; AND I WANT TO PUT THIS IN THE MOST RESPECTFUL TERMS I CAN. I AM A CAPT; AND YOU ARE MISREPRESENTING THE FACTS WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE GIVING ME A PERFECTLY GOOD ACFT. THE AUTO 1 CONTROLLER IS INOP AND YOU CANNOT EVEN TELL ME WHY IT IS INOP. BUT YOU HAVE TOLD ME THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR HANDS FULL IF IT WAS A VALVE PROB AND WE LOST AUTO 2 CONTROLLER ALSO. AN MEL IS A LEGAL WAY OF DISPATCHING AN ACFT; BUT A PLT AND DISPATCHER THEN HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL FACTORS OF THE FLT. I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROB FLYING THIS ACFT FROM SFO TO JFK ACROSS LAND; BUT OVERWATER; AT NIGHT; WITH NO OPTIONS EXCEPT MY DEP AND ARR ARPTS; IT IS NOT PRUDENT DECISION MAKING TO TAKE THIS ACFT.' AFTER THE CALL; THE MECH CONTINUED TO PUSH THE FLT. THE MAIN CONCERN WAS WHERE THEY WOULD PUT PAX IF A MECHANICAL CANCELLATION HAPPENED. THERE WAS NO CONCERN FOR SAFETY. IT IS A KNOWN FACT THAT MGMNT IS PUSHING ACFT ON PLTS; AND 50% ACCEPT PREVIOUSLY TURNED DOWN ACFT FROM OTHER PLTS. I MADE THEM FIX THE PROB; AND THEY FOUND IT WAS THE 'AUTO CONTROLLER BOX' AFTER 1 1/2 HRS OF TROUBLESHOOTING; AND THEN CHANGED THE BOX OUT. IN 17 YRS; I HAVE NEVER SEEN MAINT AT OUR ACR RUN IN THIS MANNER. OUR ACR IS HEADED FOR AN ACCIDENT. THIS MECH HAD THE AUDACITY TO TALK WITH THE FLT ATTENDANTS MAKING COMMENTS LIKE 'THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL' OR 'I GUESS THE CAPT HAS NEVER FLOWN ACROSS WATER BEFORE.' SINCE WHEN DOES A MECH QUESTION A CAPT'S AUTH? I IGNORED IT AND ACTED PROFESSIONALLY. ONE FLT ATTENDANT SHUT HIM UP WITH THIS COMMENT; 'ON 3 DIFFERENT FLTS WE'VE RETURNED TO THE DEP POINT BECAUSE OF SO-CALLED MINOR ITEMS BROKEN THAT MAINT SAID WERE OK TO GO WITH.' PLT PUSHING IS BAD BUSINESS!

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Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.