A320 CAPT ARRIVING LAX ON NEW SEAVU 2 REPORTS FMC CONTAINS FIXES FROM THE OLD SEAVU 1 AND QUESTIONS LACK OF ROUTING AFTER SEAVU.

Date: 2008-09 · Aircraft: A320 · Phase: descent

Anomalies: aircraft-equipment-problem-less-severe

Synopsis

A320 CAPT ARRIVING LAX ON NEW SEAVU 2 REPORTS FMC CONTAINS FIXES FROM THE OLD SEAVU 1 AND QUESTIONS LACK OF ROUTING AFTER SEAVU.

Narrative

WE HAD BEEN FILED THE SEAVU2 ARR INTO LAX. UPON CHKING THE STAR AGAINST THE SEAVU2 ARR LOADED IN THE FMS DATABASE WE DISCOVERED MULTIPLE DISCREPANCIES BTWN THE INFO ON THE PLATE AND THE FMS. NAMELY THE NEW SEAVU2 ENDED AT THE FIX SEAVU AND PROVIDED NO OTHER DATA TO TRANSITION TO THE ILS TO EITHER RWYS 25L OR R OR 25L OR R. THERE WAS NO NOTATION LISTED INDICATING WHETHER TO EXPECT RADAR VECTORS OR FLY A HDG AFTER ARRIVING AT SEAVU. THE FMS DATABASE HOWEVER; DISPLAYED FIXES AND XING ALTS FOR MANY OF THE FIXES FROM THE PRIOR SEAVU1 SUCH AS DYMMO; TAROC; KRAIN; LUVYN AND DIXXN. SO WE HAD A STAR THAT ENDED AT SEAVU AND A FMS THAT CONTINUED ON PAST SEAVU WITH CONSTRAINTS AND FIXES TO FUELR AT WHICH POINT IT TRANSITIONED TO THE ILS CATIII RWY 25L INTO LAX. UPON OUR INITIAL HDOF TO SOCAL APCH WE ASKED THEM ABOUT THIS DISCREPANCY AND WHAT FIX WE COULD EXPECT AFTER XING SEAVU. THE CTLR REPLIED THAT WE COULD EXPECT TO JOIN THE LOC AFTER SEAVU. THIS WAS ODD SINCE WE REALLY HAD NO GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO GET THE LOC SINCE SEAVU DOES NOT LIE ON THE LOC COURSE. WE ELECTED TO REMAIN WITH THE FMS PROGRAMMED ARR WHICH WOULD PROVIDE US A COURSE AND GUIDANCE TO JOIN THE RWY 25L LOC. ATC MADE NO QUERIES TO US SO WE HAD ASSUMED THAT THIS WAS THE CORRECT COURSE OF ACTION. IT IS CLR HOWEVER THAT THERE MUST BE CLEARER GUIDANCE BTWN PRINTED ATC CHARTS; FMS DATABASE ARRS; AND ATC EXPECTATIONS; SUCH DIFFERENCES BTWN THE 3 REPRESENT A CLR THREAT TO AVIATION SAFETY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE REPORTER DISCLOSED DURING THE CONVERSATION THAT AN ELECTRONIC FLIGHT BAG WAS BEING USED AND THAT SOME OF THE CONFUSION AROSE BECAUSE THE EFB DID NOT HAVE THE CURRENT ILS 25L WHICH SHOWS FIXES ALL THE WAY OUT TO SEAVU. THE FMC DATA WAS CURRENT AND CORRECT AND INSTALLED THESE FIXES WHEN THE ILS 25L PROCEDURE SELECTED. IT WAS ALSO NOTED THAT THE SEAVU 2 CHART WAS ISSUED AND EFFECTIVE ON SEPT 19 WHILE THE NEW ILS 25L CHART WAS ISSUED ON SEPT 19 AND EFFECTIVE ON THE TWENTY FIFTH. WHILE THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED AFTER THAT DATE THIS DIFFERENCE IN ISSUE AND EFFECTIVE DATE MAY HAVE BEEN A FACTOR.

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