Casualties unknown

Aircraft Crashes in Avocado Grove Near Ramona During Night Flight (N8196J)

San Marcos, CA, US

On September 6, 1983, a Piper PA-32-301T (registration N8196J) was involved in an aviation accident near San Marcos, CA. This summary draws on records from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) historical archive.

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A pilot on a night cross-country flight diverted to Ramona, then departed for a short trip to Palomar. The aircraft crashed on a hill in foggy conditions about 15 miles west of Ramona. No structural or engine failure was found.

Accident Details

At approximately 2209 Pacific Daylight Time, a pilot departed Fresno, California on a night visual flight rules (VFR) cross-country flight. He cancelled his VFR flight plan at 0009 PDT and landed at Ramona, California at 0012. After landing, he telephoned his wife to ask about the weather at Palomar, California. She reported that she could see stars from her location. The pilot then took off again at approximately 0017 for a roughly 23-mile flight.

Approximately 15 miles west of Ramona, the aircraft struck the side of a hill in a grove of avocado trees at an elevation of about 1000 feet above mean sea level.

Weather Conditions

Local residents reported that the weather was foggy with about half a mile of visibility and a ceiling of about 300 feet. The wind was calm and the temperature was 56 degrees Fahrenheit. According to residents, the fog had been present in the valley for two to three hours.

Investigation

Examination of the accident site and the wreckage found no evidence of an in-flight structural failure or loss of engine power.

Frequently asked questions

What happened in the 6 Sept 1983 Piper PA-32-301T accident near San Marcos, CA?

A pilot on a night cross-country flight diverted to Ramona, then departed for a short trip to Palomar. The aircraft crashed on a hill in foggy conditions about 15 miles west of Ramona. No structural or engine failure was found.

What aircraft was involved and where did it happen?

The accident on 6 Sept 1983 involved a Piper PA-32-301T, registration N8196J, at San Marcos, CA.

Investigation report by the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) historical archive. Original record: https://carol.ntsb.gov/event/20001214X44560. This page is a structured re-presentation; facts and quotes are in the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), United States.