FLC OF EXECUTIVE JET ACFT PENETRATED AN ARSA WITHOUT A CLRNC DURING A VFR DSCNT.

1992-05 · NASA ASRS report 211399

Date: 1992-05 · Aircraft: Medium Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng

Anomalies: other-airspace-violation-entry-or-exit

Synopsis

FLC OF EXECUTIVE JET ACFT PENETRATED AN ARSA WITHOUT A CLRNC DURING A VFR DSCNT.

Narrative

WHILE DSNDING INTO VNY TALKING TO LA APCH DURING TRANSITION THROUGH TCA; LA APCH WORKED US THROUGH THE TCA BUT DID NOT 'HDOF' TO BURBANK APCH. WE CONTINUED DSCNT THROUGH THE ARSA WITH NO CLRNC. I THINK THAT LA APCH SHOULD EITHER LET YOU DSND EARLIER; OR HAND YOU OFF TO BURBANK APCH IF THEY SEE AN UNUSUAL DSCNT RATE IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO AVOID ENTERING THE ARSA. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. RPTR PLT STATED THAT HE WAS THE COPLT ON THIS EXECUTIVE JET FLT ON A VFR FLT FROM SAN TO VNY. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE HAD SUGGESTED TO THE CAPT THAT HE SHOULD CALL BUR APCH FOR A CLRNC THROUGH THE ARSA TO VNY. THAT WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED; THEY WERE ASKED TO CALL BUR APCH AFTER LNDG. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE ADVISED THE CAPT TO ALSO TURN IN A NASA RPT; BUT THAT THE CAPT DID NOT SINCE THIS MATTER WAS DISCUSSED TO A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION OVER THE PHONE TO APCH. HE STATED THAT HE BELIEVED THAT IT WAS MUCH BETTER TO GO VFR BTWN VNY AND SAN SINCE AN EXECUTIVE JET COULD CRUISE AT 17500 FT AND GO OVER MOST ALL OTHER TFC SINCE EVEN IFR TFC WAS ROUTED AT 8000-11000 FT WITH MOST ALL VFR TFC. HOWEVER; HE REALIZED THAT THERE ARE NO AUTOMATIC HDOFS TO THE NEXT CTLED AIRSPACE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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