CAPT OF CPR LTT ACFT HAD DIFFICULTY OBTAINING THE LATEST RWY AND RWY LIGHTING STATUS DURING AN 'AFTER HRS' LNDG WHEN THE TWR WAS CLOSED.

1992-12 · NASA ASRS report 229274

Date: 1992-12 · Aircraft: Light Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng

Anomalies: other-unspecified

Synopsis

CAPT OF CPR LTT ACFT HAD DIFFICULTY OBTAINING THE LATEST RWY AND RWY LIGHTING STATUS DURING AN 'AFTER HRS' LNDG WHEN THE TWR WAS CLOSED.

Narrative

THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED AT THE END OF A ONE DAY TRIP THAT ORIGINATED AND TERMINATED AT THE HOME BASE (BDR). ON DEP; RWY 11-29 WAS NOTAMED CLOSED WITH ALL OTHER OPS NORMAL. THE RETURN IFR FLT PLAN WAS FILED. BDR WX WAS MARGINAL VFR WITH IMPROVEMENT FORECASTED; NOTAM STATUS UNCHANGED. THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE WE WOULD BE ARRIVING AFTER THE BDR TWR CLOSED FOR THE DAY. WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO BDR AT 4000 FT 10 MI SE OF BDR AT APPROX 1 HR AFTER THE BDR TWR CLOSED. NEW YORK APCH WAS ADVISED WE WOULD CANCEL OUR IFR WITH THEM WHEN LNDG WAS ASSURED. THE LAST WX OBSERVATION AT BDR (OVER 1 HR OLD FROM BDR FSS) AND OTHER AREA RPTING STATIONS INDICATED THE ILS RWY 6 WOULD BE PREFERRED WITH WIND FROM THE NW AT 7 KTS. WE OVERFLEW RWY 6 BECAUSE THE LIGHTS WERE DIM WHILE THE LIGHTS ON 11-29 WERE MUCH BRIGHTER. AFTER REPEATING THE PLT CTLED LIGHTING PROC WE ASKED NEW YORK APCH FOR THE LATEST NOTAM STATUS; AND HE SAID 'RWY 11-29 STILL SHOWS CLOSED.' WE CANCELLED OUT IFR FLT PLAN AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT ON RWY 6. BECAUSE 11-29 HAD LIGHTS AND RWY 6-24 LIGHTS WERE NOT WORKING PROPERLY I CALLED BDR FSS BY PHONE TO CHK THEIR NOTAM STATUS FOR BDR. I WAS SHOCKED AT WHAT I HEARD: 11-29 RWY LIGHTS ON CONTINUOUSLY AT MEDIUM INTENSITY; 6-24 LIGHTS OTS. FSS SAID THEY WOULD NOTIFY NEW YORK APCH IMMEDIATELY OF BDR CURRENT STATUS. UPON REVIEW TWO BREAKDOWNS IN THE SYS WERE UNCOVERED. THE FIRST WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED. THE SECOND OCCURRED IN THE COCKPIT. AFTER TALKING TO FSS I LISTENED TO THE BDR ATIS. IT RPTED THE TWR WAS CLOSED AND THE CURRENT RWY AND LIGHTING STATUS WAS THE SAME AS THE FSS SPECIALIST READ TO ME ON THE PHONE. MY SIC CHKED WITH BDR UNICOM; OXC AWOS-3; HVN ATIS; AND BDR FSS FOR WX INFO (NO NOTAMS) AND NEGLECTED TO CHK BDR ATIS BECAUSE 'NO WX INFO WOULD BE AVAILABLE.' 2 WRONGS NEVER MAKE A RIGHT. WE ALL NEED GOOD INFO TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. MIGHT I SUGGEST WE ALL NEED CURRENT INFO TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS. ASK THE FSS THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DEST ARPT FOR THE CURRENT NOTAM STATUS. THEY WILL VOLUNTEER THIS INFO ONLY IF IT IS OBVIOUS TO THEM FLT SAFETY IS INVOLVED. THIS SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN A TIMELY MANNER IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH CURRENT ARPT STATUS VIA AIR/GND COM AT YOUR DEST ARPT.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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