2 ACR ACFT HAD LTSS. NEITHER ACFT FOLLOWED ITS TCASII COMMAND.

1993-03 · NASA ASRS report 236198

Date: 1993-03 · Aircraft: Medium Large Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng · Phase: climb

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|aircraft-equipment-problem-critical|conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-altitude-overshoot|other-unspecified

Synopsis

2 ACR ACFT HAD LTSS. NEITHER ACFT FOLLOWED ITS TCASII COMMAND.

Narrative

TCASII TOLD US TO CLB WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO LEVEL AT FL260. OUR INFO SAYS 'ACR MLG 2' GOT A DSND COMMAND. IT APPEARS ACR 2 WAS ABOVE US CLBING AND WE WERE CLBING SO FAST TO FL260 THAT THE TCASII DECIDED WE WOULD CLB AND ACR 2 SHOULD DSND. WE THINK ACR 2 STARTED TO DEVIATE ON A TCASII ALERT AND THEN STOPPED. HE DID ANNOUNCE HE WAS DEVIATING ON A TCASII ALERT. IT APPEARS THAT; IF WE HAD CLBED AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS; WE WOULD HAVE CLBED RIGHT AT ACR 2. TCASII RPT FILED WE THINK BY ACR 2 AND BY ZME. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 236477: WE WERE AT 26000 FT IN CRUISE AND RECEIVED A CLB CLRNC TO 28000 FT. AS WE WERE CLBING THROUGH APPROX 27300; WE GOT A TCASII 'TA' AND THEN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WE GOT AN 'RA' WITH 'DON'T CLB' AND A 1500 FPM DSCNT COMMAND. THERE WAS AN ACR 1 MLG APPROX 3 MI ON OUR R AT 26000. HE HAD BEEN GIVEN A CLB TO 27000; AND HE TOO WAS RECEIVING AN RA THAT WAS COMMANDING A CLB. WE STOPPED OUR DSCNT AT 26700 BECAUSE I COULD SEE THE OTHER ACFT WAS BELOW US. IF WE BOTH HAD FOLLOWED THE TCASII COMMANDS; I FEEL WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A VERY DANGEROUS SIT. THE CTLR SAID HE WAS GLAD THAT WE STOPPED OUR DSCNT BECAUSE THE OTHER ACFT WAS BELOW US. LUCKILY; THE OTHER ACFT DIDN'T CLB TOO MUCH; OR I THINK WE WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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