1993-08 · NASA ASRS report 250315
PHRASEOLOGY PROB IN CLRNC INTERP ON TFC AVOIDANCE PROCS MIXED WITH NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS. POTENTIAL CONFLICT ENSUES.
WE DEPART DCA; IT WAS A HOT SUMMER DAY; TEMP IN THE 90'S. OUR ACFT WAS FULL AND HVY. WE WERE TOLD TO DEPART S (RWY 18) VIA THE NOISE ABATEMENT PROC. THIS CALLS FOR A REDUCED CLB THRUST SETTING OF 1.6 EPR. A HVY; HIGH TEMPS AND WITH A LOW PWR SETTING DOES NOT PERFORM VERY WELL. MAYBE THE ACFT WILL CLB 1000 FPM. AFTER THE DEP THE CTLR TOLD US TO TURN L TO 90 DEGS AND 'BEST RATE OF CLB' FOR TFC. THIS PROC IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT ADHERING TO THE PROFILE. THE ONLY TIME YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO USE FULL CLB THRUST IS IF THE CTLR SPECIFICALLY SAYS 'EXPEDITE CLB.' THE CTLR DID NOT SAY THAT; SO WE REMAINED ON THE PROFILE. THE CAPT AND I BOTH AGREED ON THAT AS WE CLBED OUT. THEN THE CTLR SAID; IN A PANICKY VOICE; 'TURN R TO 150 DEGS AND BEST RATE OF CLB FOR TFC.' AT THE SAME TIME THE CAPT HAD THE OTHER ACFT VISUALLY ON THE L. THIS TIME I WENT TO MAX PWR AND MADE A HARD R TURN. ALSO; AT THE SAME TIME; THE TCASII SAID 'DSND; DSND.' ALSO; THE OTHER ACFT HAD US VISUALLY AND STOPPED HIS CLB. WE DISREGARDED THE TCASII DUE TO THE FACT WE HAD THE OTHER ACFT VISUAL AND WE WERE ABOVE THE OTHER ACFT. A WK PRIOR ON THE SAME TRIP WE HAD A SIMILAR CLRNC 'BEST RATE OF CLB' BUT THERE WAS NO OTHER ACFT INVOLVED. IT SEEMS THAT THE CTLRS ARE TRYING TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS -- A QUIET ARPT ENVIRONMENT AND EFFICIENT TFC MGMNT. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CTLR WOULD HAVE USED THE PROPER TERM OF 'EXPEDITE CLB.' THIS NOISE ABATEMENT PROC IS NOT VERY SAFE. SHORT RWYS AND NARROW OPERATING AIRSPACE DOES NOT HELP THE SIT.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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